Buying an M1 - can you help me decide?

General discussions about the games by Egosoft including X-BTF, XT, X², X³: Reunion, X³: Terran Conflict and X³: Albion Prelude.

Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum

Martinez90
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat, 21. Dec 13, 21:59
x3ap

Buying an M1 - can you help me decide?

Post by Martinez90 » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 16:29

Hey guys,

I'm looking for good ship that can serve as command ship, battlship piloted by player. As M2 class is my main assault force, I need decent M1.
That's why I'm asking for help in making decision which to buy.

Argon Colossus

Split Raptor

Boron Shark

Terran Tokyo

Maybe I should board one of these, tons of turrets, strong ones.

Xenon J
MSI GT70 PE2 Dominator Pro: 17,3" 1920x1080, Intel Core i7-4800MQ 2,7GHz - 3,7GHz on Turbo, 16GB DDR3 CL11, nVidia GTX 880M 8GB, Intel HD4600, 1TB 32MB 7200RPM HDD, Windows 8.1 64bit

jlehtone
Posts: 21809
Joined: Sat, 23. Apr 05, 21:42
x4

Post by jlehtone » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 17:13

"need M1", but for what purpose?

65 is a nice argument.
Goner Pancake Protector X
Insanity included at no extra charge.
There is no Box. I am the sand.

Lone Jedi
Posts: 875
Joined: Sat, 18. Feb 06, 16:25
x3tc

Post by Lone Jedi » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 17:28

Assumed it's AP.

Get a Pteranodon instead. Not exactly an M1, but it can dock 16 fighters. Strong shield + Fastest M2 + 8 PPCs main guns + Insane laser turrets + Slim profile. What more can you ask for a personal battleship?
I live in my Vidar.

Laser hit efficiency: 97% @190,499 shots
Missile hit efficiency: 97% @4,204 missiles fired

Martinez90
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat, 21. Dec 13, 21:59
x3ap

Post by Martinez90 » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 17:53

I'm playing Terran Conflict, sorry for not mentioning that in the first post.
I need M1 ship because sometimes I lack fighters number in firefights although I'm using split elephant as drone carrier.
MSI GT70 PE2 Dominator Pro: 17,3" 1920x1080, Intel Core i7-4800MQ 2,7GHz - 3,7GHz on Turbo, 16GB DDR3 CL11, nVidia GTX 880M 8GB, Intel HD4600, 1TB 32MB 7200RPM HDD, Windows 8.1 64bit

User avatar
TTD
Posts: 11165
Joined: Sun, 6. Jul 08, 10:29
x4

Post by TTD » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 19:15

Yep...my answer to your question is also 65.

I used it extensively in TC and was very useful for sorting out Pirate raiding parties :-)

Martinez90
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat, 21. Dec 13, 21:59
x3ap

Post by Martinez90 » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 22:12

Split Raptor then. It's shields are quite low. TTD did you have any problems with shields going down often?
MSI GT70 PE2 Dominator Pro: 17,3" 1920x1080, Intel Core i7-4800MQ 2,7GHz - 3,7GHz on Turbo, 16GB DDR3 CL11, nVidia GTX 880M 8GB, Intel HD4600, 1TB 32MB 7200RPM HDD, Windows 8.1 64bit

OniGanon
Posts: 761
Joined: Thu, 14. Jan 10, 20:58

Post by OniGanon » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 22:12

Every time I look at the M1 class, I think "why don't I just get a Split Panther?"

ancienthighway
Posts: 1663
Joined: Tue, 24. Apr 07, 05:25
x4

Post by ancienthighway » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 22:16

I think 2 Panthers.

User avatar
TTD
Posts: 11165
Joined: Sun, 6. Jul 08, 10:29
x4

Post by TTD » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 22:17

Martinez90 wrote:... TTD did you have any problems with shields going down often?
I just used the full might of the 65.(Assorted M3's and M3+'s), plus any Capital weapons I could use.

Mine enemies were trashed before they could barely touch my shields :D

Martinez90
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat, 21. Dec 13, 21:59
x3ap

Post by Martinez90 » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 22:32

Okay, I'll buy the Split Raptor as soon as I have 90 million spare credits. I'm gathering creds to buy my own sector, shouldnt take that long :)

What about loadout?

PPC's + CIG's + FAAs ?
MSI GT70 PE2 Dominator Pro: 17,3" 1920x1080, Intel Core i7-4800MQ 2,7GHz - 3,7GHz on Turbo, 16GB DDR3 CL11, nVidia GTX 880M 8GB, Intel HD4600, 1TB 32MB 7200RPM HDD, Windows 8.1 64bit

User avatar
TTD
Posts: 11165
Joined: Sun, 6. Jul 08, 10:29
x4

Post by TTD » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 22:49

I'll let others advise on weapon load-outs, as each have their favourites...but there are several threads on the topic, if you wish to search.

Cpt.Jericho
Posts: 4503
Joined: Mon, 17. Jul 06, 15:44
x3tc

Post by Cpt.Jericho » Wed, 19. Mar 14, 23:09

ancienthighway wrote:I think 2 Panthers.
Seconded. More firepower, more shielding (combined), faster and if one goes down you still have the other one.

Edit: Another plus is that you can launch you fighters faster (each Panther launches waves of ten).
Winner of 350 Mil class of X-Verse Fleet Fest Italiano
Boycotting Steam since 2003

Lone Jedi
Posts: 875
Joined: Sat, 18. Feb 06, 16:25
x3tc

Post by Lone Jedi » Thu, 20. Mar 14, 07:58

ancienthighway wrote:I think 2 Panthers.
1 is good enough, esp. when the OP plans to use it as a player ship. It outperforms Raptor in almost all aspects except for the hanger capacity.

Besides, Panther is the only carrier in TC that has decent frontal power. It's always been my 1st choice.
I live in my Vidar.

Laser hit efficiency: 97% @190,499 shots
Missile hit efficiency: 97% @4,204 missiles fired

pjknibbs
Posts: 41359
Joined: Wed, 6. Nov 02, 20:31
x4

Post by pjknibbs » Thu, 20. Mar 14, 09:13

Yeah, I'd go with a Panther as well--it's a much nicer ship to fly than any M1, packs a reasonable amount of firepower in its own right, and in TC can dock 32 ships, which is not far off a full-blown carrier (the Shark only docks 45, for instance). The only possible sticking point is the availability of IBLs--you really need those for a Panther to work at its best.

Martinez90
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat, 21. Dec 13, 21:59
x3ap

Post by Martinez90 » Thu, 20. Mar 14, 09:54

I've already got 2 Panthers on patrol duty in Unknown Sector near PTNI HQ and right under Legend's Home. Suprisingly Pirate's regurarly try raiding these sectors, maybe because I shoot pirates and yaki on sight.
I'll get one Raptor and split roles between it and Cobra.

By the way, I've found yesterday in Aladna Hill huge Paranid force invading entire sector, taking out Argon ships and buildings. They have even targeted my station which I had to defend with my entire fleet, although I used to have highest rank.
Why did they attack an entire sector ?
MSI GT70 PE2 Dominator Pro: 17,3" 1920x1080, Intel Core i7-4800MQ 2,7GHz - 3,7GHz on Turbo, 16GB DDR3 CL11, nVidia GTX 880M 8GB, Intel HD4600, 1TB 32MB 7200RPM HDD, Windows 8.1 64bit

ancienthighway
Posts: 1663
Joined: Tue, 24. Apr 07, 05:25
x4

Post by ancienthighway » Thu, 20. Mar 14, 13:34

Paranid and Argon tend to raid each other often, as do the Boron and Split. I think the Teladi are involved somehow in instigating hostilities to boost profits.

fairywhipper
Posts: 587
Joined: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 01:11

Post by fairywhipper » Thu, 20. Mar 14, 14:12

Martinez90 wrote: By the way, I've found yesterday in Aladna Hill huge Paranid force invading entire sector, taking out Argon ships and buildings. They have even targeted my station which I had to defend with my entire fleet, although I used to have highest rank.
Why did they attack an entire sector ?
The Paranid dont like Aladna hill, i use the place to collect fleet weapons after a big pile up, and if your stations are there its just luck.
ps
why buy in TC/
I picked up a few Yaki M1 and they work fine for me as a carrier group especially if you fill up 3 of them and still cheaper than buying.... :lol:
Given up gaming because of steam

Martinez90
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat, 21. Dec 13, 21:59
x3ap

Post by Martinez90 » Thu, 20. Mar 14, 17:06

Thank you for telling me. I didn't even know they are hostile towards each other. Teladi are very likely to do so in the name of profitsssss. Still it's sad they attacked my base although high positive reputation. Still I've enjoyed wiping their M2's and other ships out :)
Well my marines are not qualified yet by fighting rank to take over any other ships (2 stars). I'm also buying 2nd M7M ship as backup for capping ships.
MSI GT70 PE2 Dominator Pro: 17,3" 1920x1080, Intel Core i7-4800MQ 2,7GHz - 3,7GHz on Turbo, 16GB DDR3 CL11, nVidia GTX 880M 8GB, Intel HD4600, 1TB 32MB 7200RPM HDD, Windows 8.1 64bit

fairywhipper
Posts: 587
Joined: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 01:11

Post by fairywhipper » Fri, 21. Mar 14, 00:28

They are not outright hostile, its just a random patrol thing through somebodies space, paranid and argon then there is boron and split, there is usually a good idea to follow a roving patrol so you can pick up cargo for free as long as your friendly with all fractions, shooting them hurts your rep so they will open fire on you as well

as boarding goes my philosophy suggest that marines gotta start somewhere to improve, if the first batch doesnt work send another batch.

Forgot to mention there are 2 Yaki M1, the Hoshi is the faster one and there is the Shuri which is rarer but is the same as the Argon M1 but free!!!!!
Given up gaming because of steam

TryckSh0t
Posts: 77
Joined: Mon, 11. Oct 10, 22:40
x3ap

Post by TryckSh0t » Sat, 22. Mar 14, 04:28

Here I am, late to the party again, what a surprise.

As an avid fan of M1s, I can say that the Raptor is a great choice, although it isn't one of my personal favorites, I find it's shielding to be too low if things go badly.

My personal favorites among the 'easily obtainable' M1s are the Shark and Tokyo, with the Condor getting an honorable mention. The Shark is reasonably fast for a heavy carrier, has very respectable shielding, and can strip the shields off of any other cap. ship in short order with it's ion cannons, allowing your 45 fighters to smash the hull directly.

The Tokyo is more along the lines of an M2 with a fighter bay. Hilariously heavy shielding, ample firepower, reasonable fighter compliment (For real hysteria, bring 50 fully loaded Cutlass or Fenrir fighters.) Oh, and Wraith missiles. Who needs an M7M when you can carry Wraiths? This is my favorite M1 to fly.

The Condor gets the honorable mention for being right smack in the middle of those two in terms of firepower, shields, and hangar space. The only reason I don't typically recommend the Condor is it is painfully slow. I've been outrun by stations when flying a Condor.
Good hunting, clear fields.

Post Reply

Return to “X Trilogy Universe”