ANY Type of ship with 30 (THIRTY) Marine

[jccpsc]

Hi All

I comme to find out if we replace on Tships the position 263 (Where lies the OTAS SIROKOS) with any other ship and no mather the Typ of, It can be M5,4,3,6,7,1,2,TM.TS What ever exept TP. That ship will be capable of carring 30 marines if the cargo space allows. and also we can change the Ship ID, we don't have to use the same ship ID as the Sirokos Only have to put our ship on the position 263 on Tships for that to work. If the ship Type is set to TP it will allow 40 marines as it should.

So my question is... to any one who can help!

Which script controls that?
And I say script because is the way scrpts works they allways use the type number and not the name or any other identifier.
And if is hard coded, is very well hidden because, regardless I'm not and EXE expert, but I did some search and did not find nothing on the EXE file related to that.

The same is aplied to the position 212 where lies the ATF Valhalla and that position removes the hability of a ship to jump to jumpgates only jumps to jump beacons.

If is there any one who can help?

Apreciated

JCC

[Jack08]

It is hard coded, and your not going to find it in the EXE because its in egosoft's proprietary bytecode language.

[jccpsc]

Hi

Thanks for the reply

And do you know if the Valhalla position is hard coded to and if there's any others position numbers with special features?

JCC

[Jack08]

Position? I doubt anything relating to position is hard coded, that would be silly... what are you referring to exactly? if you mean sector, its part of the jobs file.

[jack775544]

Position? I doubt anything relating to position is hard coded, that would be silly... what are you referring to exactly? if you mean sector, its part of the jobs file.

I think he means it's inability to use gates normally and I believe the answer is yes it is hardcoded.

[DrBullwinkle]

He means, "position in the TShips file" (numeric ID). Like Sirokos's 30-marine limit, which appears to be hardcoded to position 263 in TShips. Any ship you put in that slot can hold 30 marines.

He is just asking whether there are other special qualities hardcoded to ID's (positions) in TShips. Other than the mentioned Valhalla, I do not know of any others.

[Jack08]

All Hardcoded Indexes:

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The following ships are linked to a drone deployment hard code logic:
They are also hard coded for catching a ware.
   SS_SH_FIGHTDRONE
   SS_SH_A_MK2DRONE
   SS_SH_USC_DRONE

Marines (30)
   SS_SH_OTAS_HCF

Cant Move Through Gates:
   SS_SH_TR_M0

Forced TL Hire Dialog Enabled:
   SS_SH_USC_TL_MINING

Kha'ak Spawning Hardcode:
   SS_SH_K_M3
   SS_SH_K_M4
   SS_SH_K_M5
   SS_SH_THINKER6
   SS_SH_THINKER14
   SS_SH_THINKER
   SS_SH_THINKER27

Pirate Spawning Hardcode:
   SS_SH_A_M3_P_1
   SS_SH_A_M4P_P
   SS_SH_A_M3_P_2
   SS_SH_T_M3P_P
   SS_SH_A_M4_P
   SS_SH_T_M4_P_1

The following are hard coded in various miscellaneous ways:
    SS_SH_SAT
    SS_SH_SAT2
    SS_SH_BEACON
    SS_SH_JUMP_BEACON
    SS_SH_ORBITALLASER
    SS_SH_TR_ORBITALLASER
    SS_SH_FIGHTDRONE
    SS_SH_FREIGHTDRONE
    SS_SH_RECONDRONE
    SS_SH_CAMERADRONE
    SS_SH_A_MK2DRONE
    SS_SH_USC_DRONE
    SS_SH_MINE_1
    SS_SH_MINE_2
    SS_SH_MINE_3
    SS_SH_TR_MINE
    SS_SH_ASTRON
    OBJ_SHIP_ASTRONAUT
    SS_SH_UFO
    SS_SH_SPACEFLY
    SS_SH_GONER
    SS_SH_TURRET
    SS_SH_TR_TURRET
    SS_SH_A_OWP_1
    SS_SH_A_OWP_2
    SS_SH_A_OWP_3

[jccpsc]

Hi all

When I say position I mean the numberID on Tships
For exemple: the Sirokos is the numberID 263 or position on tships 263-
The ATF Valhalla is 212 and The Argon Mammouth is number 1and so on...
So I already find out the 263 and 212 numberID's and what they do.
My question is ... there is any more numberID's with especial powers?

Cheers

JCC

[Jack08]

Hi all

When I say position I mean the numberID on Tships
For exemple: the Sirokos is the numberID 263 or position on tships 263-
The ATF Valhalla is 212 and The Argon Mammouth is number 1and so on...
So I already find out the 263 and 212 numberID's and what they do.
My question is ... there is any more numberID's with especial powers?

Cheers

JCC

Look at my post above ^^.

I didn't convert them all to indexes, i gave you the ID Code's of the ships instead, which will allow you to find the index.

[jccpsc]

Marines (30)
SS_SH_OTAS_HCF-> We are not oblied to use it, I've tested and what must be done is to put the ship on position 263 and we can cal it what we whant, I'm using in my mod BSG Mod and I've puted there the Battlestar Athena wich is a M1 and the name ID is BSG_RUBICON
And the chip can hold 30 marines.
I also tested to cal the ship ID SS_SH_OTAS_HCF and put it on other position trhan 263 and the ship CAN'T Hold 30 marines so therefore is not the name ID but the Number ID.

EDIT: Sorry I have'nt seen your post before I post my self.

JCC

[Jack08]

You are misunderstanding me. I gave you the ship ID codes not because the hard coding is tired to the ID codes, but because thoes ship ID codes are in the TFile indexes of the hard coding.

It was far easier for me to copy down all the ID codes then convert every single one of them to a TFile index, you can do that yourself from the ID codes - simply find the position of the ship with the ID code in the standard tfiles and you have your index.

To reiterate:
The list above is a list of ships that are, in default tfiles, in hard-coded index positions. The ID's are not hardcoded, the ships default indexes are.

[jccpsc]

Thanks Jack

Got it now
Some times I can be very slow...

Well ... as I can see there's no more interesting ID's for a mod. Because the other ID's you presente there have no special powers worthing to use on a Mod or to provide a special Ship. Or have I missed something?

One other thing I've learn about the Capacity to old Marines is:

If we set a ship on "subtype" as "SG_SH_M2" and on "Class" as "TP" , Voila an M2 wich can old up to 40 Marines but there's a catch if we want that M2 to be able to dock some ships, loose that idea because it CAN'T even if we say on tships file it can. and when I say M2 it can be any other class.
For Ex: In my mod I have a special M6 wich can old up to 20 marines.
Only put on"Subtype" "SG_SH_M6" and on "Class" "M7" as a result in game an M6 with capacity for 20 marines and all the rest it's beavior is from an M6.

Thanks Again

JCC

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