[AP] Best M6/M6+

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What is the best M6/M6+

Argon Centaur
2
8%
Argon Heavy Centaur
3
12%
Boron Hydra
1
4%
Boron Heavy Hydra
0
No votes
Split Dragon
1
4%
Split Heavy Dragon
3
12%
Teladi Osprey
0
No votes
Teladi Heavy Osprey
0
No votes
Terran Springblossom
14
54%
ATF Vali
2
8%
 
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[AP] Best M6/M6+

Post by radster01 » Wed, 6. May 15, 02:33

So I'm looking to buy a new M6 to replace my Katana. My question to you is:

<b>What M6/M6+ is the best?</b>

I'm looking to buy one, no board-only please!

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Post by Nikola515 » Wed, 6. May 15, 02:42

ATF Vidar is my favorite.... But majority like Springblossom or Hyperion... Xenon P is pretty good too but I personally don't like overpowered ships ;)

Edit: Probably Springblossom would be best for you than. Fast, good cargo, average shield and awesome firepower. Aim might take you some time to get use to it but it shouldn't be the problem ;)
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Post by sithneverdiealone » Wed, 6. May 15, 02:52

Nikola515 wrote:ATF Vidar is my favorite.... But majority like Springblossom or Hyperion... Xenon P is pretty good too but I personally don't like overpowered ships ;)

Edit: Probably Springblossom would be best for you than. Fast, good cargo, average shield and awesome firepower. Aim might take you some time to get use to it but it shouldn't be the problem ;)
i agree, but i never had any problem with aiming. just let the turrets take care of anything smaller than a m3.
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Post by Nikola515 » Wed, 6. May 15, 03:01

sithneverdiealone wrote:
Nikola515 wrote:ATF Vidar is my favorite.... But majority like Springblossom or Hyperion... Xenon P is pretty good too but I personally don't like overpowered ships ;)

Edit: Probably Springblossom would be best for you than. Fast, good cargo, average shield and awesome firepower. Aim might take you some time to get use to it but it shouldn't be the problem ;)
i agree, but i never had any problem with aiming. just let the turrets take care of anything smaller than a m3.
Some people complain that they cant hit anything with it that's why I was saying that. I never had any problems with it too even with Prototype Matter/Anti-Matter Launchers for main weapons (but im using joystick).
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Post by ancienthighway » Wed, 6. May 15, 05:32

I don't use M6s as a personal ship, preferring to stay in a TM with my choice of personal M3 and M5 in the bays.

That said, the Dragon has the appeal of feeling like an M3 in combat. If you are happy with the Terran weapons, the Vidar is a beast with 10 lasers up front and the Springblossom with it's speed is favored as a personal ship.

While I don't fly an M6, I add a pair of Argon/OTAS M6s as anti-fighter escorts for bigger ships.

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Re: [AP] Best M6/M6+

Post by MarvinTheMartian » Wed, 6. May 15, 07:20

radster01 wrote:I'm looking to buy one, no board-only please!
So I guess you know you're excluding some obvious choices there then! So be it ;)
You haven't stated what's important for you but I've gone with Springblossom just because the speed and cargo give you so many options.

I could add Hyperion as there's a game start that means you don't have to board one and there's also the Acinonyx Prototype that's a mission reward that's interesting.
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Post by lighters » Wed, 6. May 15, 13:44

Springblossom, even though I feel it's totally OP. Just can't make myself not use it.

8xPMAML in the main guns kills any M6 easily and can take on an M7 (Q is a piece of cake). PSSC in all turrets melts any fighters and can fire almost infinitely.

Just don't install EEMPC in the main guns, because of its small bullet size and the fact that guns are set wide apart, you'll find it hard to hit anything. And tbh there's no need to, PMAML does everything better, and ammo drain is negligible, with 100 units you can fight all day long without resupplying.

But the dirty part is the speed. It's just crazy. You can take on fastest trade or taxi missions, you can catch almost any M5 (any with a Turbo Boost), you can fly around in Xenon sectors and nothing catches you. I feel like its speed could've easily been nerfed to 250 and it would still be a great ship.

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Post by MarvinTheMartian » Wed, 6. May 15, 13:55

Otas Skiron is not on the list, they any good? slow but decent shields I guess.
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Post by sithneverdiealone » Wed, 6. May 15, 15:34

lighters wrote:Springblossom, even though I feel it's totally OP. Just can't make myself not use it.

8xPMAML in the main guns kills any M6 easily and can take on an M7 (Q is a piece of cake). PSSC in all turrets melts any fighters and can fire almost infinitely.

Just don't install EEMPC in the main guns, because of its small bullet size and the fact that guns are set wide apart, you'll find it hard to hit anything. And tbh there's no need to, PMAML does everything better, and ammo drain is negligible, with 100 units you can fight all day long without resupplying.

But the dirty part is the speed. It's just crazy. You can take on fastest trade or taxi missions, you can catch almost any M5 (any with a Turbo Boost), you can fly around in Xenon sectors and nothing catches you. I feel like its speed could've easily been nerfed to 250 and it would still be a great ship.
i think the springgy would be more balanced with fewer shields, playing up the alpha strike/fragile speedster image of the rest of the aldren ships. people would stop complaing about how OP it is if it only had 200Mj of shields :)
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Post by daniel001 » Wed, 6. May 15, 18:32

If you can stand the way terran ships fight, the Blossom is probably an obvious choice, since its overpowered like the Hyperion.

If you want something more fun, yet strong to fly, i'd go for the Dragon.

High firepower, decent turnspeed and with CIGS you can fight anything above M5. Not so much with ISR, those tend to miss the nimble ships a lot more.

It has a very high recharge rate, so depending on your rank, you can even kill Carriers without having to rely on Missiles.

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Re: [AP] Best M6/M6+

Post by cdcryx » Sat, 9. May 15, 02:19

radster01 wrote: I'm looking to buy one, no board-only please!
Since nobody mentioned, Heavy Centaur Prototype is not for sale, it can only be boarded.

Cheers.

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Post by H E X E N » Sat, 9. May 15, 07:31

For best all around utility: Hyperion Vanguard

For boarding/capturing: HCP or Heavy Dragon

For trading and UV traders: Springblossom



Though, the blossom of spring is a rather lame ship in my opinion. There's really no downside to using the thing, and its acquisition is simply to just buy it at the Aldrin shipyard. Its mechanical ability grossly outshines the negatives of which there are only a few, the largest being weapon selection.

I almost feel like the ship is too unique, which puts me off from flying it.

I'm currently flying a Heavy Dragon for its ability to mount PBE and its speed, which makes property acquisition a streamlined process. ;) So... out of the list at hand, I'd say the best M6 is Heavy Dragon.

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Post by pjknibbs » Sat, 9. May 15, 08:21

MarvinTheMartian wrote:Otas Skiron is not on the list, they any good? slow but decent shields I guess.
Skiron is one of the best M6s apart from Hyperion and Springblossom, IMHO. Three double-gun PRG turrets shred the small stuff while the heavy up-front firepower deals with anything else. It's a bit slow to turn, maybe, and is uglier than a very ugly thing, but I'd happily fly one.

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Post by Earth Ultimatum IV. » Sat, 9. May 15, 10:43

Why would you replace the Katana?
You already got the best non-capital ship of the game, mate. :)

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Post by ajax34i » Sat, 9. May 15, 19:09

For personal use, Hyperion Vanguard, Springblossom are the favorites for the majority of the player base.

But if you ask which M6 is best for mass, AI-controlled, out-of-sector patrol use, you may get different results to your poll.

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Post by Nikola515 » Sun, 10. May 15, 02:10

pjknibbs wrote:
MarvinTheMartian wrote:Otas Skiron is not on the list, they any good? slow but decent shields I guess.
Skiron is one of the best M6s apart from Hyperion and Springblossom, IMHO. Three double-gun PRG turrets shred the small stuff while the heavy up-front firepower deals with anything else. It's a bit slow to turn, maybe, and is uglier than a very ugly thing, but I'd happily fly one.

It is pretty good M6 but only bad thing about its slow turning rate. It sucks when dogfighting smaller fighters....
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Post by Monkeyfister » Sun, 10. May 15, 06:15

Dang, man, you're cutting out the Hyperion Vanguard. That's a shame.

It left me to vote only for the Springblossom, which is SUPERFAST, and capable, but the weapons limitations, and how Springy fires its weapons can be off-putting.

Seriously... I boarded a (freshly battle whooped) Hyperion with a slow as tar, weak-shielded Centaur and 5 middling-fight/full-everything else Marines. Took a few re-starts, but a year and a half later, I ALWAYS come back to her as my Personal Ship. With Pandora Boxes I'm tooling a zippy 216k, with crazy quick strafe. Add TurboBoost. I have an Aamon Prototype, and a Fujin docked to her, and there is little I can't do, with Cargo Life Support on every ship. Great Cargo, HUGE range of weapons and missiles. Just a treat to pilot and spoil.

I hope, if you only try one boarding in the X3 series, you'll try and will capture an Hyperion Vanguard.

Some prefer M3s, some prefer M7s... I've tried most, and really like the long range and flexibility of the Hype.


The other M6 I really like is the Split Dragon. It is PURE FORWARD OFFENSE Fire first, and you dambed well better not let them shoot your tail, or Game Over. It's crazy maneuverable, but you sorta always need to keep nose down as you strafe around and spin, so top turret can assist, and help with any missiles. She's light on shields, so you really, really need to know your target. It Ba'al's Bells for capping up a fleet of the Duke's TSs.

With PBG in front, and either a PBE in top and a hold of missiles; or EBC and some ammo, it's a vicious little anti-fighter/Corvette monster, and a thing to watch on the alt views. Requires some reckless bravery for the real damage versus other M6s. Find those blindspots, and you can move with 'em, frying it to oblivion.

For all it's front-force forward power, it needs to deal damage and get away FAST. It's fragile for defence. There is very little room with the Dragon, between Domination and Dead, but it will teach you a very unique way of fighting.

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Post by radster01 » Sun, 10. May 15, 09:58

I could try for a Hype; the real question is, is it possible to board with 8x3* marines (that's all i have right now, for boarding with my Katana, and i don't want to use a TP, i'd get killed in a second)

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Post by ajax34i » Sun, 10. May 15, 15:55

Yes, the difficulty on all M6's is pretty low.

You need to stage it, though. You can read the guides on capping a HypV; there are 2 usually, so you need to scan and pick the one that has the least amount of anti-boarding (internal sentry lasers, marines, polarization, etc). Also wait for it to venture out into pirate space, so the rest of the Paranid ships don't come to its aid.

Then the biggest danger is the Hyp's high speed and multitude of weapons. Do not try to keep it at 100% hull, cut it down to 50% to slow it down and take out some of its weapons. Your marines, even if unskilled, should then further damage it to 10-15% or so, which is ok.

It's possible to capture it with a faster TP (Iguana) and M3 (Nova) and 6-10 drones. I'd recommend piloting the Nova so you can be precise with the initial damage, and to keep it shooting (and missing) you rather than shooting your TP.

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Post by Sovereign01 » Wed, 20. May 15, 02:48

ajax34i wrote:For personal use, Hyperion Vanguard, Springblossom are the favorites for the majority of the player base.

But if you ask which M6 is best for mass, AI-controlled, out-of-sector patrol use, you may get different results to your poll.
^This. The best buyable M6 in the game, the only downside is that the guns are difficult to obtain relative to the conventional armaments.

The loadout that's worked best for me is 2 PSSCs up front for anti-fighter duty and 6 PMAMLs for everything else. As the Springy has a crappy laser generator and bad shot grouping, EEMPCs are worthless.

The best boardable M6 is the Hyperion, without a shadow of a doubt- it's too good at too many things to pass up. Its only flaws IMO are its average shield recharge rate and an inability to mount PRGs.

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