GOG X3AP adds files that break existing mods

dizzy · Post by **dizzy** » Thu, 12. Nov 15, 10:34

Feel free to move this to the modding section if you think it belongs there but I think this is a bug with the game, so it's more of technical support since it breaks existing mods.

TL;DR there are some differences between the X3AP 3.1 distribution from GOG vs the Steam distribution, notably differences that break existing mods. One such difference is the GOG version including an addon/types/gamestarts.pck file meaning that any mod that wants to override gamestarts with a .cat/.dat approach will be broken (ex. Litcube's Universe is affected). There could be other differences too that I may have missed, full file lists for GOG vs Steam and checksums included below. Since there shouldn't be differences like this that affect mods I believe this is a bug in the GOG X3TC/AP distribution that needs to be fixed, thanks!

GOG "X3 Terran War Pack" file list and checksums:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fi ... 1930068322

Steam "x3 albion prelude" file list and checksums:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fi ... 7937414535

"Unified" diff of the 2 files follows. To read that, lines prefixed with "-" have been removed (ie are in the GOG file list but not the Steam filelist), lines with "+" have been added (are in the Steam file list but not in the GOG file list) and lines prefixed with " " are identical and provided for context. You can see how GOG has ./addon/types/gamestarts.pck but Steam does not. There are also a lot of irrelevant differences and many differences in the ./t/0002-L*.pck files.

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--- gog-filelist.txt	2015-11-12 01:05:35.009513627 -0800
+++ steam-filelist.txt	2015-11-12 01:06:19.068542342 -0800
@@ -49,7 +49,6 @@
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Post by **KlausM** » Thu, 12. Nov 15, 17:07

Thanks for your report. The file gamestarts.pck was added to remove a Steam reference (the Dead-is-dead gamestart), but it turns out that it causes several problems.

For now, we recommend simply to delete addon/types/gamestarts.pck manually. We'll work on a better solution and provide an update on GOG, which will also remove that file.

For the files in the t folder (X3TC), there shouldn't be any differences. The files that are marked as different have changed on Steam in June 2013, perhaps you have disabled automatic Steam updates?

The changes in addon\t are intentional and harmless and will eventually also be made on Steam.

dizzy · Post by **dizzy** » Thu, 12. Nov 15, 21:31

Thanks for your answer, glad to hear it's being looked at and going to be fixed, Egosoft doesn't let down as usual!

About the differences in the X3TC "t" folder, that was a fresh download with Steam that I did just before doing the comparison, having an updated Steam client and I even remember when the download was happening that the "auto-update" setting for the game was enabled so that should have been the latest version of X3AP... strange. Could you do a SHA1 checksum ("sha1sum" on Linux or if you have some Windows tool for it) on one of the files that show as different to see how they are in your Steam and GOG distributions? Or I guess just post the file size should work as that's likely different too, thanks!

Post by **KlausM** » Fri, 13. Nov 15, 10:13

Never mind, the t files on GOG and Steam are actually different. Some text translations in the launcher window were fixed two years ago, and the fixes are on GOG now, but somehow they never made it to Steam. So, all mysteries solved. Thanks again!

doctorfrog · Post by **doctorfrog** » Sun, 15. Nov 15, 09:30

How can I obtain the nosteam executable if I have the GOG version of the game? The reason why I ask is that Litcube's Universe requires the nosteam executable, but I can't get the nosteam if I don't have the Steam version of the game. So I'm a bit confused.

Post by **X2-Illuminatus** » Sun, 15. Nov 15, 10:47

You want the NoSteam.exe, which is a separate exe file for starting the game without the need to have started the Steam Client, for a game that is not bound to Steam in the first place? That doesn't make a lot of sense, I'm afraid.

Usually the requirement of a script/mod to create a second installation independent of Steam should ensure that Steam won't automatically overwrite mod files, which replaced original game files, thus breaking your installation. So unless GOG has a similar auto update feature which cannot be disabled, which I doubt, or the mod makes changes directly to the NoSteam.exe present in your game folder, which I doubt as well, you won't need the NoSteam.exe.

Post by **Sparky Sparkycorp** » Sun, 15. Nov 15, 11:40

IIRC, the issue with the no steam exe is that is was of a slightly different version to the Steam exe, or something like that. Basically, LU mod only works with the no steam exe.

doctorfrog · Post by **doctorfrog** » Mon, 16. Nov 15, 03:46

So LU is a no-go for GOG users, unless Egosoft wants to loosen the controls on the nosteam.exe, it seems.

I'm new to the community obviously, what do you suggest I do here? I'd be willing to present proof that I've bought the game to get access to the nosteam.exe to someone trusted.

Post by **KlausM** » Mon, 16. Nov 15, 10:44

Sparky Sparkycorp wrote:IIRC, the issue with the no steam exe is that is was of a slightly different version to the Steam exe, or something like that. Basically, LU mod only works with the no steam exe.

The nosteam exe shouldn't be different from the Steam exe in any way. Mods shouldn't rely on any differences - after all, these are unintended, and it's not unlikely that we're going to update the nosteam exe at some point together with a Steam update, removing the difference.

Same for GOG: It's not supposed to behave differently from the Steam or NoSteam exe. And actually, since GOG is not Steam, asking for a NoSteam exe for it is a bit absurd.

So, while using the NoSteam exe could be a short-term workaround, you should tell us about the bug that it fixes, so we can make sure it's fixed in future versions, no matter on which platform.

Post by **Sparky Sparkycorp** » Mon, 16. Nov 15, 11:03

Hi Klaus,

I'm afraid I don't know much about any differences myself but I found an old post in the LU thread about the topic.

If I understand that correctly, the no-steam exe doesn't contain whatever changes may have been made to it in X3:AP v3.1.

Jack08 wrote:
NodusCursorius wrote:Food for though, Litcube:

X3AP_n.exe - No-steam executable. AP version 3.0

X3AP.exe - Vanilla executable. AP version 3.1

Citation link - "Also note the fix is for mods that change the vanilla behaviour of ships."
If there are critical changes, recommending the older No-steam executable during installation could manifest future, unreproducible bugs if X3AP.exe is the version you design with.
We are very well aware of the difference between the 3.0 and 3.1 exe's - in fact i was the one that reported the crash in question to Egosoft. Litcube and I know what were doing

The 3.0 exe will never manifest strange behaviors over the 3.1 exe. LU already has safeguards in place that prevent this crash.

I am downloading the 1.2.0 installer as i write this to do a full diff check on the files in an effort to find the odd behavior.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... 02#4407902

Edit: Here's a related note, stating the nature of known differences between the exes at the bottom:

X2-Illuminatus wrote:A new (small) update: Version 3.1.

Adds a new cat/dat: 04.cat/dat.

Added/changed:

Changed
addon\Documents\Changelog_xx.txt

addon\mov\00007.pck (for Russian version)

addon\t\0002-****.pck

Added/changed in 04.cat/dat:
Changed (files that were present in another cat/dat before)
addon\director\
addon\director\2.024 Player Corp.pck
addon\director\2.180 Repair Station.pck
addon\director\2.181 Multiple Transport.pck
addon\director\2.182 Tour Of A Lifetime.pck
addon\director\2.183 Dual Convoypck
addon\director\mdfiles.pck

addon\t\0001-L007.pck
addon\t\0001-L033.pck
addon\t\0001-L034.pck
addon\t\0001-L039.pck
addon\t\0001-L044.pck
addon\t\0001-L048.pck
addon\t\0001-L086.pck
addon\t\0001-L088.pck

L\x3config.obj
L\x3galedit.obj
L\x3intro.obj
L\x3story.obj

Added (new files that weren't present in any other cat/dat before)
addon\director\Reset_Invincible_Stations.xml
The X3AP 3.0 NoSteam.exe can still be used. Please note though that the following fix (see the changelog for reference) won't be included if you do use the 3.0 NoSteam EXE with X3AP 3.1:

- Fixed crash in mods when missiles are fired from docked ships

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... 70#4144670

dizzy · Post by **dizzy** » Mon, 16. Nov 15, 21:57

This thread was about differences between Steam 3.1 and GOG 3.1 that break existing mods, not between non-Steam 3.0 and GOG (or Steam) 3.1. You bring useful information here which I need to test (have to start a LU playthrough with the GOG 3.1 copy to see how it works) but it belongs to the LU thread rather than in here, I think.

Post by **Sparky Sparkycorp** » Tue, 17. Nov 15, 03:57

You're welcome. You're probably right about the thread although I was replying to points raised by doctorfrog, X2-Illuminatus and KlausM rather than thinking this thread was about the no-steam exe.

dizzy · Post by **dizzy** » Sat, 21. Nov 15, 06:53

GOG Galaxy just downloaded an update for X3 Terran War Pack:

The good:
- fixes the addon/t/gamestarts.pck (removes the file)
- also fixes the problem with all X3AP games starting as "**modified**"

The funny:
- it adds a set of empty directories inside the game directory, namely "Egosoft/addon/types", are these needed?

Anyway, great update Egosoft, thanks for the quick turnaround!