Trump

[Observe]

Who did you vote for? Was your candidate a perfect saint? It's a hell of hypocritical position to take if your vote wasn't for Mother Teresa.

As I said, I didn't agree with everything Sanders or Obama or anyone else said or has done either. Therefore, no hypocrisy.

Perhaps you miss the point that several here have been trying to convey to you. It's this position of Trump-can-do-no-wrong, that makes it very difficult to discuss any of the various serious issues confronting your nation and the world. That kind of unbalanced position is juvenile, not conducive to discussion and given the scope, dangerous.

[Masterbagger]

Who did you vote for? Was your candidate a perfect saint? It's a hell of hypocritical position to take if your vote wasn't for Mother Teresa.

As I said, I didn't agree with everything Sanders or Obama or anyone else said or has done either. Therefore, no hypocrisy.

Perhaps you miss the point that several here have been trying to convey to you. It's the position of Trump-can-do-no-wrong, that makes it virtually impossible to discuss any of the various serious issues confronting your nation and the world.

I'm dismissing that point because it's presented as a smear. The possibility that I might not be 100% in agreement with Trump's policy or personal conduct is apparently getting lost in whatever vision of a Trump voter is being projected at me at the time. If you want to take the position that support for a candidate is not support for all of that candidates actions then I'm in agreement with you. Now apply that toward Trump supporters as well.

[Grim Lock]

No we are dismissing you I voted for someone with a whole lot more integrity than you did, but then i again i could choose from dozens of candidates! Isnt multiparty grand! What you are saying is i chose the lesser of two evils. WTH i thought the US was such a great democracy (lol) but apparently the people don't have enough influence on the system that they get choose from decent people. Ha whats the greatest country in the world again? What a joke.

And btw we are also saying that you chose the worst of two evils. Hilary might be bad, but Trump is the worst we have seen in a long time in the western world. Berlusconi was as un-trustworthy as Trump, but at least he was really smart and knew how to talk properly. And again if you are saying that others are as bad as Trump, you are the one showing your bias, not the ones that don't agree with you.



The rest of the world is starting to suffer badly from Trump and America fatigue, if this guy indeed stays the fulll term, it will take the us a very long time to recover from that.

[kohlrak]

No we are dismissing you I voted for someone with a whole lot more integrity than you did, but then i again i could choose from dozens of candidates! Isnt multiparty grand! What you are saying is i chose the lesser of two evils. WTH i thought the US was such a great democracy (lol) but apparently the people don't have enough influence on the system that they get choose from decent people. Ha whats the greatest country in the world again? What a joke.

And btw we are also saying that you chose the worst of two evils. Hilary might be bad, but Trump is the worst we have seen in a long time in the western world. Berlusconi was as un-trustworthy as Trump, but at least he was really smart and knew how to talk properly. And again if you are saying that others are as bad as Trump, you are the one showing your bias, not the ones that don't agree with you.



The rest of the world is starting to suffer badly from Trump and America fatigue, if this guy indeed stays the fulll term, it will take the us a very long time to recover from that.

Reminds me of Bush the son. He was a jerk, and he was crooked. Snowden seems pretty left, to me, but even he painted a somewhat positive image of bush the son. You know what i think? I think that human beings, being able to adapt to changes, believe that if they're not living the best they can, they will change and adapt to become the best that they can. I believe this is the basis for the Dunning-Kreuger effect. As a result, if you don't agree with someone on something, you believe they're operating under different information. We, naturally, have faith in our preferred information sources, thus we assume that the other person is operating under incorrect information. Then, in turn, we assume they're therefore stupid (because you can't count incorrect knowledge as more intelligent than correct knowledge).

tl;dr: Has it ever occurred to you that people you don't agree with sound stupid because they're talking that far above your head that it sounds like incompetent blabber, because you don't understand the words?

If Bush were stupid, and if Trump were stupid, why have they accomplished so much more than you? Or are you actually willing to admit they're still more intelligent than you? And don't give me the opportunity thing. How many millionaires squandered their initial opportunities of the public education system (yes, i'm breaking my own heart) and suddenly became incredibly rich?

[Grim Lock]

Lol im very happy with my achievements in life, and succes isn't a measure of intelligence. Beeing smart doesn't mean you have to run for president and beeing dumb doesn't mean you wont.

Saying he is succesfull so he must be smart is simplistic thinking, and doesn't come across as smart to me. Again way to be critical of your leaders.

I don't see you beeing the prez of the USA, but you do understand them? According to your reasoning you shouldn't be smart enough to do that either, lol

[CBJ]

Things are getting a little too personal again. It's obviously a hot topic, but try and keep it friendly please.

[clakclak]

Good news everyone!

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/12/preside ... -exam.html

Healthy as a horse.

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Sure if you don't count the fact that he is 50kg overweight. Than again if I was old and rich I would probably also be overweight, but that still doesn't mean it is healthy.

We use pounds around here. 'Merica.[...]

Egosoft is a German company and I think the website is hosted in Germany too.



In other bizarre news, Trump supporters tried to arrest the mayor of London. Spoiler: It did not work.

[Masterbagger]

Egosoft is a German company and I think the website is hosted in Germany too.



In other bizarre news, Trump supporters tried to arrest the mayor of London. Spoiler: It did not work.

It's our internet.

[mrbadger]

Egosoft is a German company and I think the website is hosted in Germany too.



In other bizarre news, Trump supporters tried to arrest the mayor of London. Spoiler: It did not work.

It's our internet.

Um, no, not even slightly.

America created the initial Internet, but it ceased to be America's internet the moment the US handed the rest of the world the design and we all built our own implementation.

This was done, if you know your history, in the interest of maintaining world peace in the event of a war or major disaster. Back when there was a little more common sense in the Whitehouse.

I mean sure, the US can cut itself off from the rest of the world, and with that possibly the internet if it wants.

It rather seems sometimes that an increasing number of Americans want just that. But such a course of action wouldn't end well. Not for the US I mean.

The rest of us would be ok.

[RegisterMe]

Egosoft is a German company and I think the website is hosted in Germany too.



In other bizarre news, Trump supporters tried to arrest the mayor of London. Spoiler: It did not work.

It's our internet.

Best post of 2018. Also lol.

[Masterbagger]

Um, no, not even slightly.

America created the initial Internet, but it ceased to be America's internet the moment the US handed the rest of the world the design and we all built our own implementation.

This was done, if you know your history, in the interest of maintaining world peace in the event of a war or major disaster. Back when there was a little more common sense in the Whitehouse.

I mean sure, the US can cut itself off from the rest of the world, and with that possibly the internet if it wants.

It rather seems sometimes that an increasing number of Americans want just that. But such a course of action wouldn't end well. Not for the US I mean.

The rest of us would be ok.

Sees a joke, in reply to a joke, in reply to a joke. Posts serious reply. Transmits it over our internet in bytes. We invented the byte.

Checkmate. 'Merica.

[mrbadger]

Not a very good joke. Jokes are a story with a humorous climax right?

Or at least some form of point.

Back to the current issue though, I'm not really surprised Trump doesn't want to come to the UK. He'd be criticized and heckled loudly wherever he went and he knows it.

At the moment he can't even do a press briefing face to face. He's only daring to do them by video link in his own country.

He's a precious little snowflake who's always been able to fire people that have criticized him in the past.
Presidents can't do that. They can't stop books being published either.

Obama couldn't stop him using the Birther thing as a veiled way of yelling 'we don't want no n***** president' at him. That just made Obama seem the better person to us.

But he can't cope with people not liking him, not one bit. You'd think he would, what with him being a very stable genius.

[Golden_Gonads]

Hawaii have a false warning about a ballistic missile headed their way, leading to lots of panic. Meanwhile, Trump finishes up a game of golf and a couple of hours later tweets about fake news regarding him and a porn star.

... Since the Whitehouse have said “The President has been briefed on the state of Hawaii’s emergency management exercise, this was purely a state exercise.”

So they admit it was a balls up at the same time they're saying it was an official exercise?

[BugMeister]

Back when there was a little more common sense in the Whitehouse..

- Great-Aunt Mary would be having kittens..!!

[Santi]

Knowing Trump, he will only pop to Britain once Brexit is done to do a commercial deal.

So far the few visits to the continent has been to criticize the lack on investment regarding defence, hang around looking smug and get out of some international agreements.

America first! So not, he is not faffing around trying to be a force that will galvanize other countries in search of global solutions etc. And those who expect that, because unbelievably, some are still thinking like Trump gives a hoot for the international community, will be severely disappointed.

[mrbadger]

Knowing Trump, he will only pop to Britain once Brexit is done to do a commercial deal.

Very possibly. Won't change his reception when he gets here. Unless his entire visit has no public appearances. That would be rather unusual for a state visit.

[kohlrak]

Knowing Trump, he will only pop to Britain once Brexit is done to do a commercial deal.

Very possibly. Won't change his reception when he gets here. Unless his entire visit has no public appearances. That would be rather unusual for a state visit.

If this were to be so, why would anyone care. Anyone who hates him would want nothing more, correct? And the people that like him just want him to do what he says he'll do, nothing more, right? If all he did was to go to strike a deal, nothing more, that'd be precisely what both his haters and his fans want of him, no?

[Skism]

Knowing Trump, he will only pop to Britain once Brexit is done to do a commercial deal.

Very possibly. Won't change his reception when he gets here. Unless his entire visit has no public appearances. That would be rather unusual for a state visit.

If Trump comes to Britain he will have a very good reception outside of London.

There are many people and places who would welcome him with open arms.

[Bishop149]

If Trump comes to Britain he will have a very good reception outside of London.

There are many people and places who would welcome him with open arms.

I dunno about that, my parents home (and that of my childhood) is in about the most Tory, "I'm not racist but . . . ", brexiteering and bunting place imaginable. And Trump is a bit much even for them.

[mrbadger]

no-one has to hate him. They just have to not like him very much to give him a bad time when he visits.

We don't have much to 'hate' him for, hate is a very strong emotion. I would question the reasoning behind anyone in the UK 'hating' him.

Dislike though, yup, lots of reason for that, he's a racist thug leading a country that has in a significant quantity of influence over ours.

Although it seems that said influence is declining fast under his watch.