[WIP] X Rebirth: The New Frontier

Trup2 · Post by **Trup2** » Tue, 14. Nov 17, 15:21

Yes problem was in this file, know it works!

what can i test to give real help?

Marvin Martian · Post by **Marvin Martian** » Tue, 14. Nov 17, 15:45

every feedback is helpfull

Trup2 · Post by **Trup2** » Tue, 14. Nov 17, 17:23

Ok i get free start, and everything is seem to work,

1. All CEO get there money...PMC so rich O_0 Is there CWIR added to this mod? what is Hyperdrive? and EWC?

2. Notive that stations replaced from original and have much more free space, notice that they have big difference in /Z/ that's perfect.

3. Some ships have names like SUL (20106.1804) - saw 5 like this

4. Become witness of 2 HOA Balors fighting with PMC SUL and Balors never fire a torpedo.

5. Couse of new station locations M traders become a bit slower

6. Again couse of new stations locations map become very hard to read, they spread out of zones and cover map with blue carpet (not a big deal just cosmetic)

7. Loking over new HOA Ship from shipyard, gonna see were it go and what will do...

8. And what a hell is Sanahar MK2 trad ship??? never see it, and it completly unbalanced =)))

9. PMC stock will ruin there economy...they bay items, get full cargo of it and sell it cheap...MB remove trade orders from it?

Marvin Martian · Post by **Marvin Martian** » Tue, 14. Nov 17, 17:47

CWIR is in part base of this, so can't combined (hyperdrive and EWC is CWIR stuff)
i add some little mods of mine like Carriers and "someShips" package

the Torpedo problem is a bug in latest betas, should be fixed in upcomming build of XR as far i know

about buildsports, i try to have space to build each type of station on every location, so the buildspot layout is a bit different to vanilla

PMC stock (and all NPC Warehouses) should only buy&sell around avg price (about latest Egosoft Information this works "fine")

Trup2 · Post by **Trup2** » Tue, 14. Nov 17, 18:46

Reading the CWIR wiki found some:

1. If you give CV more then 5mil it will not bay reall resources but just simulate that... will it stay so?

2. what about Invasion fleet's, respond fleet and generated small ship groups? building every ship, or they still just spawn like in CWIR?

P.S

In Flamed Corona evergy solar plant know belong to neutral faction and atack all canterian ships...

Marvin Martian · Post by **Marvin Martian** » Wed, 15. Nov 17, 08:43

no that CV stuff and "simulated ressources recall" isn't in use
the first buildstep will build by "cheat" the required ressources, because it is problematic to work with construction sites, all next steps should be build by regular trading
you have for your build the option to use a contractor, then the station get build very fast without much care of available ressources - but thats your choice to use this option

based on the condition to use only build ships that invasion and respond fleet stuff can't used
the mechanic of invasion is still present, but use available fleets, same for respond actions, faction and allied patrol ships have a chance to help if a station/ship is in trouble

only at higher difficult setting new build ships get here followers spawned, because buildprocess seems to slow to be much dangerous to the player

to have a overview, you can take a look into gamestatistics, there are some points related to spawn, build, boarding ... of the npc-behavior and gameuniverse

some unique stations are now civilian/neutral faction (to prevent such fight problens), but shouldn't attack somebody??? need to check this again

kyrah · Post by **kyrah** » Wed, 15. Nov 17, 09:08

Marvin Martian wrote: the most problem will be the economy, the new shippart-ware won't handled correct at the moment, the NPCs sell at lowest and buy at highest price, hardly always

Is this fixed? I wanted to test too. But with this problem the economy will always be flawed. So testing seems pointless?

Trup2 · Post by **Trup2** » Wed, 15. Nov 17, 10:03

So after almost 18 hours of nonstop playing i can said that mod work's awesome!

no critical bugs found and economy runs ok. If anyone wanted to try it but fear couse it's alpha build... you better install it know =)

Thing i can confirm working good:

1. NPC build new ships to factions from real parts, and that ships used in action ( L Balor i was spying was build, patrol and dead in fight, Rahanas was build and go to free trade)

2. NPC build stations and bay everything from market for there CV, but can't reach logic on station type choose. Second drone factory in same sector, when first cant work and have hard need in food and energy

3. Faction capture zone's clearly without station's destroy. Run great

4. No more random pirates spawn in Albion system, only for mission's

Some things i'd love to see in future:

1. You need somehow to prevent trade ships run into enemy zones, was looking a half hour when HOA trade ships try to pass out of "Far reach" sector to get to "Arsenal zone" (forgotten arsenal) and get blown up by board station, same thing in Third duke sector. This is only HOA zone in sector and it round by PMC zone's so ships that apper there or try to reach this place are deadman

2. Syndicate faction in albion is neutral to player, there are pirate's why they love me? =)

3. Need some tool to monitore a faction wallet status to better testing how it working (mb i can find it in some *xml in save game?)

4. Any way to add NPC CV trade offers to market without visiting them by player?

5. Syndicate pirate faction have any income? or they soon get out of money

They produce mass "S" ships that die and can't do anything to capital ships.
boring a little when 1 capital with imba laser beam (don't know what it is) just kill fighter per shot standing right on out gate from highway. MB give "S" fighters more shield and some anti large rocket's?

Trup2 · Post by **Trup2** » Wed, 15. Nov 17, 19:55

kyrah wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote: the most problem will be the economy, the new shippart-ware won't handled correct at the moment, the NPCs sell at lowest and buy at highest price, hardly always
Is this fixed? I wanted to test too. But with this problem the economy will always be flawed. So testing seems pointless?

Yes as i can see it's ok know, selling -7% avg, baying from 0 to +8%

Ship parts have base price of components at - 161743 for know, selling for 322 923...i wish i have such profit...

And then shipyard get for rahanas 16 ship pats with net price of 2 587 000 and sell it for 9 700 000...

So the economy of shipyard holder is good

SiD_azer · Post by **SiD_azer** » Wed, 15. Nov 17, 21:04

i removed all mods,
and put nf* in the root extension

no menu when i start the game, set in english, still no menu

i have official mod only +
nf_base
nf_hol
nf_to
mm_uspprod
i remove lost sector and hegi, problem remains the same , no menu to start.

I have the albion shipyard video then it relaod the video continuously :'(

what can i do ?

SiD_azer · Post by **SiD_azer** » Wed, 15. Nov 17, 21:11

the debug log:

Logfile started, time Wed Nov 15 21:09:33 2017
[General] 0.00 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 0.00 [Movie.LoadFormat] File videos/logo_publisher.mkv: avformat_open_input = -2 'No such file or directory'
[General] 0.00 ======================================
[General] 6.94 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 6.94 Error while loading the Lua file: 'ui/addons/ego_gameoptions/gameoptions.lua' for addon 'ego_gameoptions': '[string "ui/addons/ego_gameoptions/gameoptions.lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near 'then''
[General] 6.94 ======================================
[General] 6.94 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 6.94 Initialized UI but addon 'ego_gameoptions' is not loaded.
[General] 6.94 ======================================

SiD_azer · Post by **SiD_azer** » Wed, 15. Nov 17, 21:13

Marvin Martian wrote:because without _base, nothing should be enabled

try to remove from nf_base the subst_01.cat/dat, this is only a test suggested from Unitrader to separeate the Savegames from vanilla, but effected the UI/LUA stuff so is very problematic to have them up-to-date and could be responsible to your Menu problem

will try that also

SiD_azer · Post by **SiD_azer** » Wed, 15. Nov 17, 21:17

Working with that fix,

but what is herschel mod ? i can't find it ?

Trup2 · Post by **Trup2** » Thu, 16. Nov 17, 14:47

SiD_azer wrote:Working with that fix,

but what is herschel mod ? i can't find it ?

I don't know to really...

In Space of opportunity Teladi ship's build from old component's. They don't want to use unipart system =)

In 40 hours of gameplay NPC was able to:

1. Build many high tech station's and dry out food and energy storage of whole Albion

2. Recognize that it doesn't look good, and begin a mass build of food and energy (saw 12 station builded at once)

Know it looks pretty balanced if see statistic to 1 system, interesting one that there seem no way to enter market easy know, NPC corps give you huge competition.

3. Logistic of npc is horrible like in vanilla, there can be 20km between 2 stations but now one will get good from one to another. Seem station's haven't got there own ship's and free trader's always choose most profit run and never get to buttom of orders

SiD_azer · Post by **SiD_azer** » Thu, 16. Nov 17, 17:58

i have an issue with a pmc mission, it ask to sell tem around 25000 unit of fuel cell, but i can't buy more than 2500 per ship, i did not find ship allow transport of fuel cell in pmc/hoa

i'll try this mod : Rahanas Refueling

Trup2 · Post by **Trup2** » Thu, 16. Nov 17, 18:16

Any ship with "fuel" type of cargo, it's 'Tanker" variation of Rahanos for example.

But for 1 mission you can just sell them 10 times fo 2500 fuel =)

Can i build Ship part and Ship part (weapon) by myself? can't find such factory in build list of all CV =(((

some more:

1. Station don't get destryed. 2 PCM ships was trying do deastroy a Cantera station for 2 days by know, all modules dead but it still 19% HP

2. Ship production is stuck at 100% no one wan't to take ship part's to shipyard exept player

3. MB couse of no new ships the war's between goverment was ended in first few hour's and know everyone sitting in there borber's.

SiD_azer · Post by **SiD_azer** » Sun, 19. Nov 17, 10:25

Trup2 wrote:Any ship with "fuel" type of cargo, it's 'Tanker" variation of Rahanos for example.

But for 1 mission you can just sell them 10 times fo 2500 fuel =)

yeah there is more commercial version for that, what when station PMC border is running without fuel cells ?

Is there any ship that can trade fuel cells (more cargo ?)

Marvin Martian · Post by **Marvin Martian** » Sun, 19. Nov 17, 11:14

The Fuelcells are only tradeware on this station

some OL ships have double fuel storage, also the Repairship and the Sanahar Supplier (HoA SY) is designed to support fleets with fuel, so the ship can carry a lot of fuelcells

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@Trup2

Shipparts (big/small) can build with "Civ Ship Parts Lot Ship Tech Fab" -Station, available on each regular CV

What stations can't destroyed (macro, or name) are you in zone or did you leave, IZ it is difficult, OOZ the station should blown up (get ownerless and will removed some hours later)

wihout ships to fight, nobody can go fighting - old way was to spawn ships

Trup2 · Post by **Trup2** » Sun, 19. Nov 17, 11:49

Station wasn't dead IZ or OOZ they were jist shooting it for nonstop but it's HP never drop below 19% =)

I was in de vriz system sector "pured vail (hope i hear it right") zone 1 (don't know how to tranlate it name in english)

Station called Tech lab.

Than'x for clue with ship part production. And plz look why no one of npc or my automate traders want to sell them (mb couse of low profit per run?)

And how mechanic of invasion work's? i mean how many ship's goverment faction need to build till it's ready for fight? wan't try to help them with production

Marvin Martian · Post by **Marvin Martian** » Mon, 20. Nov 17, 08:51

the invasion-mechanic check time by time closer areas (or connected Zones) to attack with dedicated fleets

the fightships for this and secure reasons will normally send to her target areas, if the old job is outdated or not any longer required they will send to a new secure job, if nothing available they will add as escorts to other patroljobs and if there is nothing too they will be marked for invasion fleets
the invasion mechanic should check in front of an final attack order the number of ships in each fleet and send more units (if possible)

thats the theory, in lack of enough ships to reach this point this doesn't happend under documented circumstances

most combats resulting actually in the fact the areas are not always connected and fleets fly through enemy space at travel actions

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[WIP] X Rebirth: The New Frontier