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Post by Antilogic » Thu, 9. Aug 18, 16:48

Wired LAN is still 100% the best way to go if you can at all manage it.

Wi-Fi is great, but is much more of an ad-hoc solution for mobile devices in my opinion.

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Post by Hank001 » Thu, 9. Aug 18, 17:10

Antilogic notes:
Wi-Fi is great, but is much more of an ad-hoc solution for mobile devices in my opinion.
Isn't it! With Android 6 you could bluetooth into a USB hub to you laptop, but but on 7 and above. Recently I upgraded to this Android 8 smartphone and it won't. You'd think SOMEONE would set up a smartphone with some hardwired ramp to your cable internet, but no.

That and LG the maker of this smartphone won't release the scematics for this phone to anyone but licenced repair contractors and then charges then 4 figures for them. This is new as could download the schematics for my Android 6 phone from their website.

Though with a 2009x1080 screen this new phone is readable for me without the gimmick I had to use to connect the old one to an HDMI setup to my HDTV. Otherwise it's if I need to transfer files to my other computers it's back to using USB and MTP.

Another drawback is a smartphone that's almost larger than my hand and weighs almost half a kilo!

But don't believe for a second that if my eyes weren't half gone I'd be on by soldering bench looking for a way to tie this baby into my LAN network.
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Post by Antilogic » Thu, 9. Aug 18, 17:25

I'm including laptops in this as well. Anything that doesn't really have a fixed position to a network port is generally served better by Wi-Fi.

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Post by Hank001 » Thu, 9. Aug 18, 17:32

Antilogic:
I'm including laptops in this as well
What, are laptop's skipping a LAN chip now too? Luckly my Toshiba Satellite is ancient enough to still have one. Though I should have seen that coming as some motherboards are dropping built in LAN and going to built in wifi.
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Post by CBJ » Thu, 9. Aug 18, 18:40

Hank001 wrote:Isn't it! With Android 6 you could bluetooth into a USB hub to you laptop, but but on 7 and above. Recently I upgraded to this Android 8 smartphone and it won't.
I can't find anything that says they removed Bluetooth tethering. Are you sure you just didn't just forget to enable Bluetooth discovery?
Hank001 wrote:What, are laptop's skipping a LAN chip now too?
Not that I know of, and I have no idea how you got that idea from Antilogic's post.

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Post by Hank001 » Thu, 9. Aug 18, 18:53

CBJ asks:
I can't find anything that says they removed Bluetooth tethering. Are you sure you just didn't just forget to enable Bluetooth discovery?
Not directly into my desktop bluetooth no and it took some doing to get it to link to my laptop. I think it's simply my Android 8 is "too new" and I'm going to have to upgrade bluetooth hardware.

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I'm including laptops in this as well. Anything that doesn't really have a fixed position to a network port is generally served better by Wi-Fi.
I assumed this meant laptops that didn't have a LAN connection.
I might have misunderstood.
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Post by Antilogic » Thu, 9. Aug 18, 19:04

Hank001 wrote: Antilogic:
I'm including laptops in this as well. Anything that doesn't really have a fixed position to a network port is generally served better by Wi-Fi.
I assumed this meant laptops that didn't have a LAN connection.
I might have misunderstood.
I was referring to laptops being literally mobile and moving around away from a fixed network point.

However, yes lots of laptops these days are no longer coming with a RJ45 port for ethernet connection. My laptop at work only has 2 USB C Ports for everything, including power. Optional dock has the extra ports.

This is done because they try to strive for lightness and thinness with the design, and an RJ45 port is huuuuggee for most things these days. So something to consider going forward with laptops. (Most standard size business laptops still carry USB3 & RJ45 ports, in addition to at least one USB C).

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Post by Hank001 » Thu, 9. Aug 18, 19:21

@ Antilogic

Since my laptop is what we use to track our telescope, etc, my astronomy group wanted me to hold off until we can get together before I buy a new laptop. After searches on Amazon and Newegg I'm starting to see that fewer and fewer new models have a LAN connection which sort of shoots down down our time killer of playing MP LAN games on our laptops. :D
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Post by Morkonan » Fri, 10. Aug 18, 04:47

Antilogic wrote:...This is done because they try to strive for lightness and thinness with the design, and an RJ45 port is huuuuggee for most things these days. So something to consider going forward with laptops. (Most standard size business laptops still carry USB3 & RJ45 ports, in addition to at least one USB C).
My latest one has one similar to this: https://i.imgur.com/ewwec6w.jpg Another I had was a bit bigger/thicker and had a standard port.

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