Updated DOC for Loops for Weps, Missiles, SATs, etc.

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Updated DOC for Loops for Weps, Missiles, SATs, etc.

Post by jester688 » Thu, 6. May 04, 19:49

This post is for your to copy and paste and use freely…Enjoy. (Updated)


Loops May require their own SPP and Crystal Fab to support….

Big Note: When trying to save a buck…Consider the E-Cells required for Jumping the your TL or the cost to have a hired TL move your NEWLY Purchased stations for you. If the numbers get close, then it most likely is a better idea to just pay the extra money up front…and get the little bit more expensive one.

Note: Split Ore Mines save about 30K over Argon (I spend more time in Argon Space myself)

Note: XL (Ore and Silicon) will most likely require a TS after 1.4 Patch is released…Keep this in mind while you build your empire, prior to its release.

Note: Keeping good relations with all empires will save you money.

Note: Rimes Factories, can be a pain in the butt to keep supplied with Wheat…my suggestion, Build TWO Wheat Farms..works great….

Stations are for sale…some exist in the X2 Universe as stand alones…(not for sale by that race)

ShipYard = Place where the Main Factory can be bought

Total is based on Price of factories needed with exception of TP/TS and SPP or optional Crystal fab (and its loop). I did all this adding so, you would have to…Now you can look at your account…maybe a few factories in your in your list…and go, WOOT I have enough for another loop…

Cheapes SPP is:
SPP (Split)(Price 239,658) Required Materials (Crystals)



Cheapest Crystal Fab: (Basically you save money on your Silicon Mine)
Crystal Fab (Argon)(Price 649,240) Required Materials (E-Cells, Silicon, Meatsteak Cahoona’s)
(ShipYard: Argon Prime) (Total: 2,455,094)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)
Silicon Mine (Argon)(Price 182,754) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Cheapest Ore Mine
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)


Satellite Production Loops

Satellite Factory (Argon)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Majaglit, Silicon Wafers)
(ShipYard: Argon Prime) (Total: 2,909,558)
Space Jewellery(Paranid)(Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells, Maja Snails)
Snail Ranch(Paranid)(Price 649,240) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Silicon Mine (Argon)(Price 182,754) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Satellite Factory (Teladi)(Price 1,298,476)Required Materials (E-Cells, Majaglit, Silicon Wafers)
(ShipYard: Ianamus Zura) (Total: 2,909,558)
Space Jewellery(Paranid)(Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells, Maja Snails)
Snail Ranch(Paranid)(Price 649,240) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Silicon Mine (Argon)(Price 182,754) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Advanced Satellite Factory(Argon)(Price 1,947,716)Required Materials (E-Cells, Majaglit, Silicon Wafers) (ShipYard: Omincron Lyrae) (Total: 3,558,798)
Space Jewellery(Paranid)(Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells, Maja Snails)
Snail Ranch(Paranid)(Price 649,240) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Silicon Mine (Argon)(Price 182,754) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Advanced Satellite Factory (Paranid)(Price1,947,716 ) Required Materials (E-Cells, Majaglit, Silicon Wafers) (ShipYard: Paranid Prime and Cardinals Domain) (Total: 3,558,798)
Space Jewellery(Paranid)(Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells, Maja Snails)
Snail Ranch(Paranid)(Price 649,240) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Silicon Mine (Argon)(Price 182,754) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Advanced Satellite (Split)(Price 1,947,716) Required Materials (E-Cells, Majaglit, Silicon Wafers)
(ShipYard: Family Niy) (Total: 3,558,798)
Space Jewellery(Paranid)(Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells, Maja Snails)
Snail Ranch(Paranid)(Price 649,240) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Silicon Mine (Argon)(Price 182,754) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Shield Production Loops:

125MW (Boron) (Price 4,155,128) Required (E-Cells, Bofu, Ore)
(ShipYard: Great Reef) (Total: 6,211,749)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Bofu Chemical Lab (Boron) (Price 973,860) Required Materials (Bofu Gas, E-Cells)
Biogas Factory (Boron) (Price 941,396) Required Materials (E-Cells)
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25MW (Split) (Price 2, 207,412) Requires (E-Cells, Ore, Raster Oil)
(ShipYard: Family Pride and Family Tkr) (Total: 3,943,534)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells)
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5 MW (Paranid) (Price 2,077,564) Required (E-Cells, Ore, Soja Husk)
(ShipYard: Paranid Prime and Cardinals Domain) (Total: 2,933,093)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

5MW (Teladi) (Price 4, 544,672) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Nostrop Oil)
(ShipYard: Seizwell and Home of Opportunity) (Total: 6,432,493)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1,103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)
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1MW (Argon)(Price 1,558,172)Required Materials (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Argon Prime) (Total: 3,322,637)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

1MW (Boron)(Price 1,558,172) Required Materials (E-Cells, Bofu, Ore)
(ShipYard: Great Reef and Lucky Planets) (Total: 3,615,333)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Bofu Chemical Lab (Boron) (Price 973,860) Required Materials (Bofu Gas, E-Cells)
Biogas Factory (Boron) (Price 941,396) Required Materials (E-Cells)

1MW (Split)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Rastar Oil)
(ShipYard: Family Pride) (Total: 3,034,598)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells)

1MW (Teladi)(Price: 3,895,432) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Nostrop Oil)
(ShipYard: Ianamus Zura) (Total: 5,783,253)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)


Weapons Loops:
Weapons Component Factory (All Races)(Price 649,240) Required Material (E-Cells, Rimes, Ore)
(ShipYard: Light of Heart, Depths of Silence, Kingdoms End, Cardinals Domain, Paranid Prime
Family Niy, PTNI Headquarters) (Total: 2,543,553)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rimes Factory (Argon)(Price 973,860) Required Materials (E-Cells, Wheat)
Wheat Farm (Argon)(Price 779, 088) Required Materials (E-Cells)
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Ammunition Factory (Argon)(Price 3,895,432)Required Material (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(Shipyard: Argon Prime Omicron Lyrae) (Total: 5,659,897)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)
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Squash Mine Factory (Paranid)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Soja Husk)
(ShipYard: Trinity Sanctum) (Total: 3,192,789)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Squash Mine Factory (Split)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Rastar Oil, Ore)
(ShipYard: Family Pride, Family Tkr) (Total: 3,034,598)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Squash Mine Factory (Teladi)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Nostrop Oil, Ore)
(ShipYard: PTNI Headquarters) (Total: 3,186,297)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)
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Drone Factory (All Races)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Massom Power, Silicon Wafers)
(ShipYard: Light of Heart, Depths of Silence, Great Reef, Kingdoms End, Lucky Planets, Oceans of Fantasy
Trinity Sanctum, Family Tkr, Ianamus Zura) (Total: 3,299,102 minus 70K if Split Ore Mine)
Silicon Mine (Argon) (Price 182,754) Required Materials (E-Cells) or Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Massom Mill (Split) (Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Scruffin Fruits)
Scruffin Farm (Split) (Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Laser Tower Factory: (Argon)(Price 1,298,476) Required (E-Cells, Meat Cahoona’s, and Ore)
(ShipYard: Omicron Lyrae) (Total: 3,062,941)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

Laser Tower Factory (Paranid)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Soja Husk)
(ShipYard: Paranid Prime) (Total: 3,192,789)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Laser Tower Factory (Split)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Rastar Oil)
(ShipYard: Family Niy) (Total: 3,034,598)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Laser Tower Factory (Teladi)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Nostrop Oil, Ore)
(ShipYard: Home of Opportunity) (Total: 3,186,297)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)


Missiles:

Silkworm Missile Factory (Argon)(Price 1,428,234) Required (E-Cells, Meat Cahoona’s, and Ore)
(ShipYard: Light of Heart) (Total: 3,065,469)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

Silkworm Missile Factory (Split) (1,428,234) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Rastar Oil)
(ShipYard: Family Pride) (Total: 3,164,365)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Silkworm Missile Factory (Teladi)(1,428,234) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Nostrop)
(ShipYard: Seizwell and Home of Opportunity) (Total: 3,316,055)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)


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Hornet Missile Factory (Paranid)(Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Soja Husk)
(ShipYard: Paranid Prime and Cardinals Domain) (Total: 2,673,401)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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DragonFly Missile Factory (Boron)(Price 1,168,632) Required Materials (E-Cells, Bofu, Ore)
(ShipYard: Ocean of Fantasy) (Total: 3,225,253)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Bofu Chemical Lab (Boron) (Price 973,860) Required Materials (Bofu Gas, E-Cells)
Biogas Factory (Boron) (Price 941,396) Required Materials (E-Cells)

DragonFly Missile Factory (Split)(Price 1,168,632) Required Materials (E-Cells, ore, Rastar Oil)
(ShipYard: Family Pride and Family Tkr) (Total: 2,904,754)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Wasp Missile Factory (Argon)(Price 973,860) Required Materials (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Omicron Lyrae) (Total: 2,738,325)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

Wasp Missile Factory (Paranid)(Price 519,392) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Soja Husk)
(ShipYard: Trinity Sanctum) (Total: 2,413,705)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Wasp Missile Factory (Split)(Price 978,360) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Rastar Oil)
(ShipYard: Family Niy) (Total: 2,714,482)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Mosquito (Argon)(Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Omicron Lyrae) (Total: 2,543,553)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

Mosquito Missile Factory (Boron)(Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells, Bofu, Ore)
(ShipYard: Depths of Silence and Kingdoms End) (Total: 2,836,249)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Bofu Chemical Lab (Boron) (Price 973,860) Required Materials (Bofu Gas, E-Cells)
Biogas Factory (Boron) (Price 941,396) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Mosquito Missile Factory (Teladi) Price (779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells, Nostrop Oil, Ore, Silicon Wafers)
(ShipYard: PTNI Headquarters) (Total: 2,849,663)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)
Silicon Mine (Argon)(Price 182,754) Required Materials (E-Cells)
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Shipboard Weapons Systems:


Alpha IRE Forge (Argon)(Price 1,298,476) Required Material (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Omicron Lyrae) (Total: 3,062,941)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

Alpha IRE Forge (Boron)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Bofu, Ore)
(ShipYard: Depths of Silence) (Total: 3,355,097)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Bofu Chemical Lab (Boron) (Price 973,860) Required Materials (E-Cells, Bofu Gas, E-Cells)
Biogas Factory (Boron) (Price 941,396) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Alpha IRE Forge (Teladi)(Price 1,623,096) Required Materials (E-Cells, Nostrop Oil, Ore)
(ShipYard: Ianamus Zura) (Total: 3,510,917)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)

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BETA IRE Forge (Boron)(Price 1,947,716) Required Materials (E-Cells, Bofu, Ore)
(ShipYard: Depths of Silence) (Total: 4,004,337)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Bofu Chemical Lab (Boron) (Price 973,860) Required Materials (Bofu Gas, E-Cells)
Biogas Factory (Boron) (Price 941,396) Required Materials (E-Cells)

BETA IRE Forge (Split)(Price 1,298,476) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Rastar Oil)
(ShipYard: Family Niy) (Total: 3,034,598)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)

BETA IRE Forge (Teladi)(Price 2,272,336) Required Materials (E-Cells, Nostrop Oil, Ore)
(ShipYard: PTNI Headquarters) (Total: 4,160,157)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)

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Gamma IRE Forge (Argon)(Price 2,596,956) Required Materials (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Argon Prime) (Total: 4,261,421)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

Gamma IRE Forge (Paranid)(Price 2,596,956) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Soja Husk)
(ShipYard: Trinity Sanctum) (Total: 4,491,269)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Gamma IRE Forge (Split)(Price 1,947,716) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Rastar Oil)
(ShipYard: Family Pride) (Total: 3,683,838)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Gamma IRE Forge (Teladi)(Price 2,921,576) Required Materials (E-Cells, Nostrop Oil, Ore)
(ShipYard: Seizwell and Home of Opportunity) (Total: 4,809,397)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)

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Alpha PAC Forge (Argon)(Price 3,246,196) Required Materials (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Omicron Lyrae) (Total: 5,010,661)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

Alpha PAC Forge (Boron)(Price 3,246,196) Required Materials (E-Cells, Bofu, Ore)
(ShipYard: Ocean of Fantasy) (Total: 5,303,357)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Bofu Chemical Lab (Boron) (Price 973,860) Required Materials (Bofu Gas, E-Cells)
Biogas Factory (Boron) (Price 941,396) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Alpha PAC Forge (Paranid)(Price 3,246,196) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Husk, Ore)
(ShipYard: Trinity Sanctum) (Total: 5,140,509)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Alpha PAC Forge (Teladi)(Price 3,570,812) Required Materials (E-Cells, Nostrop Oil, Ore)
(ShipYard: PTNI Headquarters) (Total: 5,458,633)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)

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Beta PAC (Paranid)(Price 3,895,432) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Husk, Ore)
(ShipYard: Cardinals Domain) (Total: 5,789,745)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Gamma PAC Forge (Boron)(Price 4,544,672) Required Materials (E-Cells, Bofu, Ore)
(ShipYard: Ocean of Fantasy) (Total: 6,601,293)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Bofu Chemical Lab (Boron) (Price 973,860) Required Materials (Bofu Gas, E-Cells)
Biogas Factory (Boron) (Price 941,396) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Gamma PAC Forge (Split) (Price 3,570,812) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore Rastar Oil)
(ShipYard: Family Niy) (Total: 5,306,934)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Alpha PSG Forge (Paranid)(Price 5,193,912) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Husk, Ore)
(ShipYard: Paranid Prime) (Total: 7,088,149)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Alpha PSG Forge (Teladi)(Price 5,193,912) Required Materials (E-Cells, Nostrop Oil, Ore)
(ShipYard: PTNI Headquarters and Home of Opportunity) (Total: 7,081,733)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells)

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Beta PSG Forge (Paranid)(Price 6,005,460) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Husk, Ore)
(ShipYard: Trinity Sanctum) (Total:7,899,773)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Gamma PSG Forge (Paranid)(Price 6,492,388) Required Materials (E-Cells Soja Husk, Ore)
(ShipYard: Trinity Sanctum and Cardinals Domain) (Total: 8,386,701)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Alpha PPC Forge (Argon)(Price 5,843,152) Required Materials (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Argon Prime) (Total: 7,607,617)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Beta PPC Forge (Argon)(Price 6,492,388) Required Materials (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Omicron Lyrae) (Total: 8,256,853)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

Beta PPC Forge (Boron)(Price 6,492,388) Required Materials (E-Cells, Bofu, Ore)
(ShipYard: All Boron) (Total: 8,549,549)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Bofu Chemical Lab (Boron) (Price 973,860) Required Materials (Bofu Gas, E-Cells)
Biogas Factory (Boron) (Price 941,396) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Beta PPC Forge (Paranid)(Price 6,492,388) Required Materials (
(ShipYard: Cardinals Domain and Paranid Prime) (Total: 8,386,701)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Gamma PPC Forge (Teladi)(Price 8,440,104)) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Nostrop Oil)
(ShipYard: Ianamus Zura) (Total: 10,327,925)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Sun Oil (Teladi) (Price 1, 103, 708) Required Materials (E-Cells, Sunrise Flowers)
Flower Farm (Teladi) Price 642,748) Required (E-Cells

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Alpha HEPT Forge (Argon)(Price 5,193,912) Required Materials (E-Cells Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Argon Prime) (Total: 6,958,377)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

Alpha HEPT Forge (Paranid)(Price 5,193,912) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore, Soja Husk)
(ShipYard: Trinity Sanctum) (Total: 7,088,255)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Beta HEPT Forge (Argon)(Price 5,843,152) Required Materials (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Omicron Lyrae) (Total: 7,607,617)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

Beta HEPT Forge (Paranid)(Price5,843,152) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Husk, Ore)
(ShipYard: Cardinals Domain and Paranid Prime) (Total:7,737,465)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Soyery (Paranid) (Price 1, 038, 784) Required Materials (E-Cells, Soja Beans)
Soyfarm: (Paranid) (Price 714, 164) Required Materials (E-Cells)

Beta HEPT Forge (Split)(Price 4,544,672) Required Materials (E-Cells, Ore Rastar Oil)
(ShipYard: Family Pride and Family Tkr) (Total: 6,280,794)
Ore Mine (Split)(Price 113,022) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Rastar Refinery: (Split) (Price: 844,012) Required Materials )E-Cells, Chelts Meat)
Chelts Meat Factory: (Split) (Price 779,088) Required Materials (E-Cells

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Gamma HEPT Forge (Argon)(Price 6,492,388) Required Materials (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Light of Heart) (Total: 8,256,853)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Mass Driver Forge (Argon)(Price 4,869,292)Required Materials (E-Cells, Meatsteak Cahoona’s, Ore)
(ShipYard: Argon Prime) (Total:6,633,757)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Meatsteak Cahoona’s (Argon)(Price 908,936) Required Materials (E-Cells, Argnu Beef)
Cattle Ranch (Argon)(Price 714,164)Required Materials (E-Cells)

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Ion Disruptor Forge (Boron)(Price 7,141,628) Required Materials (E-Cells, Bofu, Ore)
(ShipYard: All Boron) (Total: 9,198,789)
Ore Mine: (Argon) (Price 141,365) Required Materials (E-Cells)
Bofu Chemical Lab (Boron) (Price 973,860) Required Materials (Bofu Gas, E-Cells)
Biogas Factory (Boron) (Price 941396) Required Materials (E-Cells)
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Post by Helion X » Thu, 6. May 04, 19:52

nice work :) BTW thats the longest post ive ever seen!!

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Post by jester688 » Fri, 7. May 04, 15:46

I guees this wasn't what people were looking for.....oh well

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Post by FanaticChiken » Fri, 7. May 04, 16:25

Don't say that after getting your first reply. I am sure there are people, especialy those starting a new game, that find it an interesting read. If I had know sooner that factory prices differ by great amounts, I would have made different choices back then. Right now I am happy where I stand and simple order compattible stations (mines/SPPs) where they are cheapest or cheap and nearby.

What would be useful tho is a tree view, where each selling factory (top of tree) shows the cumulative cost for setting it up. THis makes comparisons between loops that much easyer and might even let you considder cheaper loops then now suggested.

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Post by jester688 » Fri, 7. May 04, 16:29

Basically I did this...because you see about ten thread a day of "where can I buy "X" factory"...so I did all the hard farctories first..the ones people have said numerous times they are trying to find for sale..

Yeah, I understand your point..This is for the "more well off player"... :)

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Post by Snake Sanke » Fri, 7. May 04, 16:36

Very good. The slow response is probably because people are stil reading it. :wink: :)

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Post by jester688 » Fri, 7. May 04, 16:52

:lol: :lol:

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Post by gerrythegremlin » Fri, 7. May 04, 16:55

Looks like you really set out to do the job!
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Post by JustHere4Coffee » Fri, 7. May 04, 17:51

I like the look of this, although the format doesn't lend itself to easy reading... and your information's all very useful but still short on important details: if there's different stations needed to support a loop for a similar factory from different races (change in foodstuffs, etc) the price of those foodstuffs then becomes important as well as the cost of the stations that makes them as it'll cut into the end-profit...? make sense?

try formatting it a little better, maybe make it a downloadable file and submit it to one of the filesites like x2source? I'm sure loads of people would enjoy this that don't come here for one reason or another

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Post by jester688 » Fri, 7. May 04, 17:57

try formatting it a little better, maybe make it a downloadable file and submit it to one of the filesites like x2source? I'm sure loads of people would enjoy this that don't come here for one reason or another

My version looks much better...just when you copy and paste into the
X-Forums..the colors go away...
if there's different stations needed to support a loop for a similar factory from different races (change in foodstuffs, etc) the price of those foodstuffs then becomes important as well as the cost of the stations that makes them as it'll cut into the end-profit...? make sense?
The loops are complete for each race that can provide "said" factory.
The only thing, as I noted, was a SPP/Crystal Fab Loop...to supply free (well sorta free) E-Cells...

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Post by JustHere4Coffee » Fri, 7. May 04, 18:33

you can't cut/paste colours unless you're using Word ;) you could always use the colouring commands in the post box but the time wasted would be enormous especially as we then wouldn't get to see that if we cut/paste ourselves...

if you would like, I have webspace I'd be happy to store the file on for downloading?

and I'm not disputing the completeness of the loops, merely the fact that the end profits must vary, even slightly, when using either an Argon or Split Silkworm factory, because of the different prices of the foods and such - or is this already accounted for in the game itself?

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Post by jester688 » Fri, 7. May 04, 18:42

Sure, two things can effect profits...If you leave your factory with the ability to sell to others...or you close it off....

Generally, I leave it open...make it a little side profit...but usually I will set the price at MAX...this way it does not get bought so fast...this would apply to the food/ore/silicon...End Factories...it varies....depends where you deployed your factories...

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My trade loop ain't loopin'

Post by XXAgonyXX » Mon, 21. Jun 04, 23:05

I've got the factories for a crystal fab loop, but i can't keep other traders from buying the resources i need to go to the crystal fab. I want to get the loop to run without manual control i.e i don't want to have to preform all the trades myself, so i set my trade ships to "buy ware for best price" and set all the prices on my beef/energy/silicon on the lowset setting. That didn't work. Is there any command that i can use scripted/mod or otherwise that will allow this loop to run on its own? I'm thinking of maybe setting the sell prices on my resources to the maximum, and set the traders to "sell ware for best price" and then make sure they sell to my crystal fab by setting it's buying prices for resources on max also...will that work?

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Post by Argonaught. » Tue, 22. Jun 04, 00:28

Excellent piece of work there jester688 :thumb_up: :thumb_up: :thumb_up:
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Post by Sovereign » Tue, 22. Jun 04, 20:04

hmm i thought that SPP stood for Stupid Power Plant, now i know better

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Post by g.koster » Wed, 23. Jun 04, 11:08

I've got the factories for a crystal fab loop, but i can't keep other traders from buying the resources i need to go to the crystal fab. I want to get the loop to run without manual control i.e i don't want to have to preform all the trades myself, so i set my trade ships to "buy ware for best price" and set all the prices on my beef/energy/silicon on the lowset setting. That didn't work. Is there any command that i can use scripted/mod or otherwise that will allow this loop to run on its own? I'm thinking of maybe setting the sell prices on my resources to the maximum, and set the traders to "sell ware for best price" and then make sure they sell to my crystal fab by setting it's buying prices for resources on max also...will that work?
For food stuf I have found a small trick. If you are using food that is not normaly avaleble in the range were you buy you metherials for that fab. I must buy it from you self.
I have a boron qristal fab with boron food supply in herons nebula (argon space)

Ad least this helps a bid with supplie chains (for energyetc this doesn't work pitty)

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Post by RJV » Wed, 23. Jun 04, 11:53

XXAgonyXX wrote:I've got the factories for a crystal fab loop, but i can't keep other traders from buying the resources i need to go to the crystal fab. I want to get the loop to run without manual control i.e i don't want to have to preform all the trades myself, so i set my trade ships to "buy ware for best price" and set all the prices on my beef/energy/silicon on the lowset setting. That didn't work. Is there any command that i can use scripted/mod or otherwise that will allow this loop to run on its own? I'm thinking of maybe setting the sell prices on my resources to the maximum, and set the traders to "sell ware for best price" and then make sure they sell to my crystal fab by setting it's buying prices for resources on max also...will that work?
Hi,

Set your 'other races can trade with this station' flag to NO

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Post by b-b-q » Wed, 23. Jun 04, 12:58

The original post was informative. I'd like to add my two cents.

I think in general it is probably not worth the hassle to worry about the price differences between the various stations. If you can afford to set them up one loop (needing many millions), people tend to just grab the nearest ones, because the time they save can easily make more money by doing a few bbs missions. But having said that, that chart is very helpful if cash is short and you need to save every k. So, not bad.

However, I'd like to note that in general, there are only two good reasons to make loops.

1. You don't want to worry about supplies and demands as the factories are self sufficient.

2. You make loops to create the items that takes a long time to make, like G-PPC and 125mw shields, thus suppling yourself with time critical items.

Also, a closed loop don't make more money than a opened one. It is much more profitable to buy low and sell high for the resources that you need within the loop regardless. Furthermore, a loop requires a lot of upfront cash, not just to buy the factories but to seed them with credits and/or resources so the loop can start moving.

Lastly, a common misconception is that a closed loop will help you make a lot of money. In actuality they help you turn money into end products >more economically< (which of course can then be sold but I don't consider that a "closed" loop). They generate resources not money, because the credits are simply passed from your right hand to your left.

So what am I getting at with all this? Nothing really except that making loops after loops tend to be really dull after a while. The X2 universe is a lot more complex and fun if you spread things out and look for niches to fill instead. There is no right or wrong about looping, I just think doing them in moderation is much more interesting. :)

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Post by Ozental » Sun, 27. Jun 04, 20:01

Looks like I'll need to try and setup some loops then. :)
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Post by Firesky1 » Fri, 9. Jul 04, 19:11

:D WoW! Lookie, Lookie what I found (cut, copy, paste)
This is just what I've been looking for :!:
Outstanding piece of work, will file this with my other top value info.
thanks for takin the time :)
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