Ego... you're forcing me to crush the FRF... and i don't wanna

[grapedog]

I really don't wanna wipe the Free Families off the map.... but if I can't find a way to put a stop to FAF Dragon Raider pirates, I'm going to have to do just that. I already have a battle group camping right on top of the L fabrication bay at their shipyard, instantly murdering any FAF Rattlesnakes that get built... but the dragon raiders, slippery little bastards that they are, slip away quite quickly before I'm always able to turn them into stardust.

If I have to destroy an entire faction, to stop the pirates that they so nonchalantly produce... I'll do it.

But I'd really appreciate more alternatives.

[solarie99]

sca and faf is annoying agreeing with you i found sca shipyard and have parked an asguard there to handle the situation.

[Exitialis101]

sca and faf is annoying agreeing with you i found sca shipyard and have parked an asguard there to handle the situation.

It's Asgard, not assguard! Not rear guard, not bulbuous behind guard. ASGARD

[Virtualaughing]

sca and faf is annoying agreeing with you i found sca shipyard and have parked an asguard there to handle the situation.

It's Asgard, not assguard! Not rear guard, not bulbuous behind guard. ASGARD

Also forget the so lame things in MARVEL. The Real thing is Roswell greys as portrayed in Stargate!
Thor's character development in marvel is the only thing makes them forgivable sins.

[Raptor34]

Didn't even need to open to know its another FAF complaint.
Also I just had a ****** FAF Rattlesnake blow up one of my Baldrics. In Pluto. Within Terran territory. The one with all those sensors and destroyers. Those Terrans.
Something needs to be done. Let me terraform a planet for them.
Either that or find a way to fix the thing where your ships couldn't comply with pirate harassment when they are docking.

[Exitialis101]

This must be random, I have tons of traders in a 100 hour save and have lost very few to piracy. Must be like with the Xenon, in some games they're more active.

Got no beef with pirates at all.

[grapedog]

This must be random, I have tons of traders in a 100 hour save and have lost very few to piracy. Must be like with the Xenon, in some games they're more active.

Got no beef with pirates at all.

This save is like 33 days long... it's my original 1.0 save that I've been playing for quite some time.

Eventually you can find a beef with FAF...

[solarie99]

sca and faf is annoying agreeing with you i found sca shipyard and have parked an asguard there to handle the situation.

It's Asgard, not assguard! Not rear guard, not bulbuous behind guard. ASGARD

WOW i AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry i wrote it wrong you see English is not my native langue and some times i do mess it up. but i am grown up enogh not to get angry at such things so maby you shuld grow up also and realice that not all speak English.

[dtpsprt]

This must be random, I have tons of traders in a 100 hour save and have lost very few to piracy. Must be like with the Xenon, in some games they're more active.

Got no beef with pirates at all.

This save is like 33 days long... it's my original 1.0 save that I've been playing for quite some time.

Eventually you can find a beef with FAF...

The player has three "new" options to "take care" of FAF and SCA. They are to change the default setting in "Pirate Harassment" to Escape, the default setting in "Aggression" form "Use Judgement" to "Escape" (again, and cancel it on warships that are on guard duty) and "Declare War" on FAF in the harshest way possible (shoot on sight), which will even make your stations blasting them off the sky... Of course it's best to reach that wonderful -28 with them by caping some Rattlesnakes from them for your use...

[Exitialis101]

sca and faf is annoying agreeing with you i found sca shipyard and have parked an asguard there to handle the situation.

It's Asgard, not assguard! Not rear guard, not bulbuous behind guard. ASGARD

WOW i AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry i wrote it wrong you see English is not my native langue and some times i do mess it up. but i am grown up enogh not to get angry at such things so maby you shuld grow up also and realice that not all speak English.

You got me wrong, I was just kidding with you.
Sorry, should have made that clearer.

[grapedog]

This must be random, I have tons of traders in a 100 hour save and have lost very few to piracy. Must be like with the Xenon, in some games they're more active.

Got no beef with pirates at all.

This save is like 33 days long... it's my original 1.0 save that I've been playing for quite some time.

Eventually you can find a beef with FAF...

The player has three "new" options to "take care" of FAF and SCA. They are to change the default setting in "Pirate Harassment" to Escape, the default setting in "Aggression" form "Use Judgement" to "Escape" (again, and cancel it on warships that are on guard duty) and "Declare War" on FAF in the harshest way possible (shoot on sight), which will even make your stations blasting them off the sky... Of course it's best to reach that wonderful -28 with them by caping some Rattlesnakes from them for your use...

I'm already at -30 with FAF, and I know you can set your ships to run, but there are... I'm pretty sure, no freighters straight out of the wharf in the game, that can outrun a dragon raider. Not even a boa. If it was a matter of just having faster ships, and sacrificing cargo space, that would be a choice I could balance out. But there is no running from a dragon raider. I could turn on the notify me of pirate harassment option, but the FAF, but the FAF are just hunting ships. Also, I don't need MORE notification windows popping up while I'm trying to do other shit.

I'd love some diplomatic options with the FRF to get the FAF minimized... like, i provide a SIGNIFICANT chunk of business in general to FRF stations. I could just shut FRF off completely, from my entire empire, but that just slows down the process, and that would essentially mean mothballing a few of my factories that operate solely within FRF space and with FRF stations. So that's a shit answer as well....

[ubuntufreakdragon]

There should something be done about pirates.
1 Why not implement protection money as a timed licence (based on the size of your pocket), and maybe a permanent version requiring a good standing, or you could get an option to autorebuy this licence.
2 if faf are meant to be hostile, they should get rep locked to something negative like sca, else there should be a way to improve in relations, but this only go down is bad style.
3 There should be more hide and seek, patrols should actively scan and hunt pirates, pirate should avoid core systems and bypass normal transport route e.g. by warp anomalies.(they could have a device to stabilize the and choose the outcome)
4 Pirates should calc risk vs. reward, a Syn carrying one energycell is a bad target compared to vulture filled with claytronics.(all my patrols carry a 'holy' energy cell)
5 Firing in selfdefence should never change rep.

[KextV8]

Add two Katanas as escorts to each trader. Dragon raider will die in a fire to those.

[skyneedler9]

Free Families have no real navy until you know, the court of curbs... but in that meantime, I have seen FAF pirates help a lil bit, not a whole lot when xenon run through. Otherwise, FAF just gets really aggressive and my god, do they get aggressive with Teladi in Profit Center Alpha, they come at those shipyards and equipment docks just ready to push them out of their own space.

For me they never were any concern, I had like one or two instances of being harassed by dragon raiders, mostly I'm just ready to blow my stack on SCA minotaur raiders because they always sneak around my HQ when I'm trying to research and just hack dump materials. -eye twitch- oh do I hate those little buggers.

However, the constant stream of rattlesnake pirate ships to board does come in handy xD. For both training marines to Elite status and selling for 20 mil a pop using a repair auxiliary.

If the FAF did have some interdiction force to keep xenon from taking the Free Families... -though their armed stations do a decent job- I would understand them more, being pirates and also protecting the families that give them harboring free space and shipyard usage, but I'm not sure they do have actual defense patrols, and the patriarchy polices with light force in FRF space. I don't know the dynamic exactly for them.

Split space is confusing xD

[Midnitewolf]

I really don't wanna wipe the Free Families off the map.... but if I can't find a way to put a stop to FAF Dragon Raider pirates, I'm going to have to do just that. I already have a battle group camping right on top of the L fabrication bay at their shipyard, instantly murdering any FAF Rattlesnakes that get built... but the dragon raiders, slippery little bastards that they are, slip away quite quickly before I'm always able to turn them into stardust.

If I have to destroy an entire faction, to stop the pirates that they so nonchalantly produce... I'll do it.

But I'd really appreciate more alternatives.

Actually I feel your pain. The scripted nature of so much of the diplomacy and conflict in this game really puts a major crimp on trying to use your own imagination to create fun and exciting scenarios.

For example I was so frustrated yesterday because I did the Terran Cadet start with the intention of claiming the neutral sector of Getsu Fune as my own. I immediately jumped on, rushed around doing everything to get money and rep ASAP, got the blueprints for the admin center and defensive modules and rushed over the claim the system only to find out I couldn't because that sector is integral to the Story.

Slowly but surely I am starting to realize that they game I though was a Sandbox, either isn't a Sandbox or the Developers forgot to add the sand.

At the end of the day, I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want a Sandbox mode for this game. One without the stories, without the scripted events and conflicts and without all the limitation this implies. I want dynamic wars, meaningful territory control and the ability to CREATE MY OWN LORE AND STORY completely separate from any and all other considerations. God I want this version of the game SO, SO BADLY.

[BlackRain]

I really don't wanna wipe the Free Families off the map.... but if I can't find a way to put a stop to FAF Dragon Raider pirates, I'm going to have to do just that. I already have a battle group camping right on top of the L fabrication bay at their shipyard, instantly murdering any FAF Rattlesnakes that get built... but the dragon raiders, slippery little bastards that they are, slip away quite quickly before I'm always able to turn them into stardust.

If I have to destroy an entire faction, to stop the pirates that they so nonchalantly produce... I'll do it.

But I'd really appreciate more alternatives.

Actually I feel your pain. The scripted nature of so much of the diplomacy and conflict in this game really puts a major crimp on trying to use your own imagination to create fun and exciting scenarios.

For example I was so frustrated yesterday because I did the Terran Cadet start with the intention of claiming the neutral sector of Getsu Fune as my own. I immediately jumped on, rushed around doing everything to get money and rep ASAP, got the blueprints for the admin center and defensive modules and rushed over the claim the system only to find out I couldn't because that sector is integral to the Story.

Slowly but surely I am starting to realize that they game I though was a Sandbox, either isn't a Sandbox or the Developers forgot to add the sand.

At the end of the day, I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want a Sandbox mode for this game. One without the stories, without the scripted events and conflicts and without all the limitation this implies. I want dynamic wars, meaningful territory control and the ability to CREATE MY OWN LORE AND STORY completely separate from any and all other considerations. God I want this version of the game SO, SO BADLY.

You can claim Getsine fune just fine, the story missions have nothing to do with it. Not sure why this is a complaint?

[BlackRain]

As for the topic, there is a way to pretty much get rid of FAF doing the split campaign. Side with Zyarch and help them win. Once they win, it tells you that FaF wont be much of a problem anymore

[LennStar]

Interesting. I have never seen a FRF ship in my Terran game (~100 hours).

[grapedog]

As for the topic, there is a way to pretty much get rid of FAF doing the split campaign. Side with Zyarch and help them win. Once they win, it tells you that FaF wont be much of a problem anymore

Then if i side with Curbs, i should get a positive bump with FRF and FAF. But that doesn't happen...

[BlackRain]

As for the topic, there is a way to pretty much get rid of FAF doing the split campaign. Side with Zyarch and help them win. Once they win, it tells you that FaF wont be much of a problem anymore

Then if i side with Curbs, i should get a positive bump with FRF and FAF. But that doesn't happen...

That is just your opinion and obviously not the opinion of Egosoft I guess.