Protecting L miners with S ships from KHK attacks

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Protecting L miners with S ships from KHK attacks

Post by Dominus » Mon, 29. Nov 21, 22:17

Is it possible?

I have a bunch of L miners with two S heavy fighters each assigned in defense duty or intercept. In both modes the fighters dock when the miner is going to fly far away and never take off again even under attack.
Is this the standard behaviour?
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Re: Protecting L miners with S ships from KHK attacks

Post by Alan Phipps » Mon, 29. Nov 21, 22:50

If the escort's mode is set to 'docked' then after docking they will not react again because 'docked' effectively means 'disarmed'. Set their mode to 'launched' (which could be taken to mean 'armed') which does not prevent them from docking when appropriate, but they should react and launch as intended to meet a threat or as a result of host damage.
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Re: Protecting L miners with S ships from KHK attacks

Post by builder680 » Tue, 30. Nov 21, 06:04

If that actually works that should be the default. It's preposterous we should have to specify such a thing when we gave orders to defend a ship. I just use a mod that gives all ships carrier logic. Reactive docking.

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Re: Protecting L miners with S ships from KHK attacks

Post by Dominus » Tue, 30. Nov 21, 09:59

The escort's mode is set to Launched. None of them take off. Could it be due to a minimum damage threshold that KHK ships are unable to deal?
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Re: Protecting L miners with S ships from KHK attacks

Post by Alan Phipps » Tue, 30. Nov 21, 10:12

I'm not having that issue. In fact most of my issues are more about docked escort fighters launching on intercept at times not really convenient for the host ship and chasing off after hostiles. I tend not to use defend so much although I certainly have seen defending docked fighters deploy upon their host being attacked.

Just to check, is your game modded at all?

Do your ships also have defence drones? Those share use of the S docking bay with the fighters and multiple drones' deployments and landings can effectively block the docked fighters from launching.
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Re: Protecting L miners with S ships from KHK attacks

Post by Dominus » Tue, 30. Nov 21, 16:16

Totally unmodded. The L miners have 9 mining drones(in use) and one repair drone(not in use).
Also the L miners are subordinates of stations.
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Re: Protecting L miners with S ships from KHK attacks

Post by Xkuka » Wed, 1. Dec 21, 08:57

Alan Phipps wrote:
Mon, 29. Nov 21, 22:50
If the escort's mode is set to 'docked' then after docking they will not react again because 'docked' effectively means 'disarmed'. Set their mode to 'launched' (which could be taken to mean 'armed') which does not prevent them from docking when appropriate, but they should react and launch as intended to meet a threat or as a result of host damage.
I have tried that, fighters just docked and never took off despite plenty of Khk all over the place. Yes the squad was 100% set to lauched. I gave it up rather quickly. Maybe there were too many Khk and the "judgement" prevented intervention? Idk if there is a difference with independent auto miners and subordinates of stations, mine were the latter. I actually came to this forums just now to see if i find some usefull info how to make docking space of civilian Ls actually usable. I have plenty of ideas but nothing is working. Just thought of a way to use courier ships to serve L Traders, but there is no way. Mimic lets them work inedependently and using "repeat order" there is no option to exchange wares with the L ship at all... Next thing i try when i have the ships to do so is if i can haul stuff from L miners to stations so the miners dont have to dock and can mine indefenetly. But i have the feeling that isnt gonna work either... :gruebel:
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