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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by izalith » Fri, 21. Apr 23, 11:28

mediacenter wrote:
Fri, 21. Apr 23, 00:11
its not a bug localaised only in avarice

im in zyarth space and all of the station there (that i bother check) have the issue - the sector under eleven hour -
Can you provide a save where this buck happens on other stations outside of Avarice?

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by fxfighter » Fri, 21. Apr 23, 19:47

Mahi Ma wrote:
Thu, 20. Apr 23, 20:34
Great. The last save is 12 hours old. I am now sitting in an M ship and can't dock. Is this something actively being worked on or is my game permanently ruined?
Switch to an S sized ship to finish those missions up in the meanwhile. Not ideal, but it works.

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by Mahi Ma » Fri, 21. Apr 23, 23:22

fxfighter wrote:
Fri, 21. Apr 23, 19:47
Mahi Ma wrote:
Thu, 20. Apr 23, 20:34
Great. The last save is 12 hours old. I am now sitting in an M ship and can't dock. Is this something actively being worked on or is my game permanently ruined?
Switch to an S sized ship to finish those missions up in the meanwhile. Not ideal, but it works.
How exactly can I make the passenger on my M class ship switch to another ship? Not suppoerted? Well, this ship is now patrolling a Khaak infested sector. If that Teladi ever wants to get back home, this bastard better survives.

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by Galrith » Sat, 22. Apr 23, 06:18

So I just had this happen to me as well. Though this time I noticed there was an M transport NPC just sitting out against the outer ring just a bit away from the dock. So I figured it might be trying to dock and was just stuck... so I blew it up. And immediately got docking permission. I think the issue may come from the new physics and some ship just not getting to the dock.. that and the fact that there seems to be only 1 M class dock.

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by Mahi Ma » Sat, 22. Apr 23, 17:47

Galrith wrote:
Sat, 22. Apr 23, 06:18
So I just had this happen to me as well. Though this time I noticed there was an M transport NPC just sitting out against the outer ring just a bit away from the dock. So I figured it might be trying to dock and was just stuck... so I blew it up. And immediately got docking permission. I think the issue may come from the new physics and some ship just not getting to the dock.. that and the fact that there seems to be only 1 M class dock.
But why does it not work OOO?

Also, blowing up is a good point. You can blow up your M ship and the Teladi magically gets there "on his own"

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by Tybor » Sat, 22. Apr 23, 18:02

I think i have the same issue. I rescued Dagobas Lahubasis Yorilos III with my Hydra (M) and can't dock at Tidebreak. With my Geometric Owl (S) i am able to dock.
In my save there's also one of my M Transporters trying to dock, to bring water.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SfQ7ZP ... sp=sharing

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by ceue_08 » Sat, 22. Apr 23, 22:45

This sucks to be honest, it breaks the whole Avarice sector for me. Even the plot mission for Boron where you have to deliver water to Tidebreak, since I tried to do it with M transporter. Please release a hotfix.

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by LizardPerson » Sun, 23. Apr 23, 21:14

I have the same issue.

- started new Game as Boron
- Avarice stations became blocked one after the other, over a couple of hours
- NPC ships start piling up outside of the blocked stations (until the next tide)

Save file:
https://1drv.ms/f/s!Aguyz24k1UFRi5QW247 ... Q?e=EhWyqw

One of my ships got stuck in one of the affected stations and could not be retrieved from internal storage.
I do not have a save game with that situation because ... "rage quit", but here is how it went:

- trying to land on M-Dock gets me the "docking queued" response (even on affected stations with no docked or waiting ships)
- trying to retrieve the ship from internal storage by "context menu" does nothing
- trying to retrieve the ship from internal storage via the "dock terminal" (after landing in space suit) resulted in the message that no owned ships are docked...

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by Raymus1 » Mon, 24. Apr 23, 19:19

Just came across the same bug. I helped the guy in the freighter, escorted him to Avarice in a Hydra, also had a Dolphin with me to deliver water to Tidebreak. The NPC freighter was waiting in front of the station to dock, while my docking request got queued. The M landing pad was missing the red stop sign. Even flying out of the sector to let any ships dock while I was not present did not help. They were still queued up in front of the station. Interestingly, my Hydra also did not attack the NPC when I gave the order to do so. I then destroyed the NPC ship myself, but still couldn't dock. I was, however, able to dock with a space suit at the same docking module. That's pretty much it.

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by sekullbe » Tue, 25. Apr 23, 20:05

I have a mostly-similar issue with Tidebreak. I can't dock there with a M-class ship, but I don't get any errors, just silence. My S and L ships work fine. I'm a bit stuck in the plot; there's a mission to take the Teladi (I think) from the destroyed freighter to Tidebreak, but it doesn't have a name or text, just a blank spot in the mission list. All the objectives of the mission are marked complete including #6 "Dock at Tidebreak", but it hasn't actually completed. The briefing has no text, just placeholder key 1025. Mission objectives draw a line to Tidebreak, and the Teladi nags me about taking him there. I tried docking my Hydra on my Odysseus and docking that, but it doesn't work. So I'm stuck for now on that plot.

I may try blowing up my Hydra and getting another one, but that would be annoying. Still worth a try I suppose. I could supply a savegame but this game is heavily modded so I don't suppose it would be useful.

ETA: Blowing up the ship worked; the Teladi went to Tidebreak on his own and the ghost mission resolved.
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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by Candergart » Tue, 25. Apr 23, 22:41

I currently have this issue too. :cry:
The medium dock pad on the station Tidebreak is completely blocked by my main medium size ship that I simply cannot use now.

I have tried all the standard troubleshooting steps like, go OOS, restart the game, remove all orders from the stuck ship, save, restart the game and then give it new orders.

It is just not working.
All other ships , NPC's and mine are blocked from using the medium pad.

I do have 2 mods installed but nothing that affects anything like this stations, ships or docking in any way.

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I broke Tidebreak XD

Post by Rompetroll » Wed, 26. Apr 23, 12:44

Alrigth, my guess is that I somehow trough an unfortonate set of events managed to break tidebrake Together with Dagobas Lahunasis Yorilos III. Quite a team :P

So ill explain as best I can, but first the game version is 6.00 (497467) And i tried to do a search and see if anyone else have managed this.
So the story goes as I move into Avarice i rescue this Teladi and somhow wind up getting him a new trade ship. as Im en rute to deliver his new ship. mere km befor avarice jumpgate I get a fleet transfer request, a bit confused at this as I still have to arrive at Tidebreak with his new ship I accept. a bit later I noticed that one of my station traders that was on rute to Tidebrake with water from the Queendom was with and seemingly no longer under my command but still registerded under my station managers command. also I'm no longer able to dock M class ships at Tidebreak as it seems the dolphin that was to deliver water but instead wound up in Dagobas clutches as he was to impatient to wait for the ship he was supposed to get. as a result it seems that my water transport is holding up the M sized docking queue. my guess is that when transfer happend this somehow broke Tidebreake.

Link to savegame https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K7LKk3 ... sp=sharing

I've not myself tried to reproduce this yet as Its a bit time to play trough to be able to deliver water for the queen.
but probable steps to reproduce should be somthing like this.

Play until u have to deliver Dagobas a new ship, while enrute to deliver his ship have a station M- trader deliver good to Tidebreak.
Ensure that Stion trader arrives before you. Dagobass should request transfer of ship, and this somehow cloges up docking quee as the transfered ship dosnt get cleared from docking queue for some reason :s
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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by elijahgalador » Wed, 26. Apr 23, 19:12

I can provide another savefile showing the same bug in an unmodified Boron game start. Tidebreak M dock is unusable though station info says there are 0/57 ships docked. This affected both the Dagobas Lahunasis Yorilos III quest and the Boron deliver 2.2k Water quest.

Some observations
  • tried to shoot any M traffic to to see if it fixes a stucked docking queue - without effect
  • AI pilots manage to dock eventually (or player gets docking request after being queued a very long time)
  • once my corvette was finally docked and i left it for the quest line, I could not teleport back since the ship was displayed as being in internal storage. Trying to retrieve it via station console/contect menu messaged me that I do not have ships in internal storage
  • bug could be related to tide "seek shelter" mechanic, since it looks I can dock when the tide is rolling across Avarice IV
Link to save: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11vvezV ... P3HQ9/view

Note: found this thread via forum search, so I will not open another support thread. Would loved to see this fixed though, since Tidebreak is in fact broken in my game ;)

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by Matticus88 » Wed, 26. Apr 23, 19:21

I am having the same issue. I have a Hydra stuck in internal storage of the Scrap Processing station that is part of the "Trading Lessons" Mission.

I have a Dolphin waiting to dock to collect the Hull Parts for the quest and there is another 5 AI Freighters just waiting to dock too.

I've reset all orders for my Hydra and Dolphin, tried it in-sector and out of sector and nothing is working.

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by The Sane » Wed, 26. Apr 23, 23:12

I think I experienced this. It wouldn't let me dock in an M class ship so I just went off to do something else, it seems to have fixed itself since then.

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by ceue_08 » Wed, 26. Apr 23, 23:33

The Sane wrote:
Wed, 26. Apr 23, 23:12
I think I experienced this. It wouldn't let me dock in an M class ship so I just went off to do something else, it seems to have fixed itself since then.
My theory is that there is a ship stuck inside the sation and after a few waves it gets destroyed and it is free again, have not tested it.

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by mediacenter » Thu, 27. Apr 23, 13:25

is this bug fixed? i see now the release of the hotfix 2 but no mention of the bug

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by CBJ » Thu, 27. Apr 23, 13:28

No, we're still investigating this one.

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by Vycwulf » Thu, 27. Apr 23, 19:05

It's not just tidebreak. I have an ant claytronics factory that has 2 of the same type of docks that are at tidebreak and both of them are broken for medium ships. I notice it easily from the 50+ ships(4 of them mine) that are trying to trade with the station. Might just be a problem with that specific type of dock.

Ok, it's worse than I thought. I took a tour of Second Contact XI just to check out a lot of 1x6 docks. Out of 21 stations only 4 of them had functional medium docks. Small ships are ok but the medium portion of these docks is broken. No wonder their economy is busted. At first I thought I had a pattern as the first few I saw broken were attatched by one of their ends instead of at the middle, but I found some broken that way as well, so there went a good theory out the window :(

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Re: [#1123]Tide break M dock broken

Post by Titan Nya » Fri, 28. Apr 23, 00:08

Well got the 2nd station with AI dock queue stuck in avarice, no idea if happens in other sectors as I only see that the 10M trade pending is taking forever in seta to do so I checked them and they are just there waiting at a station to dock to trade while other M ships are also waiting to dock.
So disabled their ware to auto trade that these stations sell to stop them from going there...

My game is modded (having a gate between Avarice and LOF for easy auto collection and trade of protectyon)

Hope it is fixed in the next patch (maybe having a script that if the 1rst request to dock is made more than X time it gets deleted and the ship get moved a few km away in case it was stuck in geometry. should probably help...)

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