[Question] Retexture turrets

[heifi]

I really like the geometry of split turrets.The only downside is that the red color of the base does not fit to a lot of paintjobs. That's the reason why I tried to recolor them. A grey or black color would be more neutral.

I searched the games files and found in the folders below \assets\props\WeaponSystems a few entries for split turrets where the split textures are mentioned. I replaced the textures with a generic hulltexture on a lot of assets. Unfortunatly I cannot see any change in game.

So my questions are: Am I even at the right files? Would it even work to recolor the turrets in these files? Or am I doing something wrong with the replacement? I simply made a mod where the folder structure is the same as in the original .dat file.

[Axeface]

Try naming your archive subst_01.cat/dat instead. That instructs the game to use the files inside as replacers of base game files.

[heifi]

Ah thanks a lot, that hint did help!

[|K.O.S.H.]

can you pulish this please?

[linolafett]

The colour is also not coming from the textures, but is encoded in the mesh vertex colours. Changing the textures will not help, the geometry has to be changed.

[DeadAirRT]

The colour is also not coming from the textures, but is encoded in the mesh vertex colours. Changing the textures will not help, the geometry has to be changed.

Sorry to highjack, are beam colors via vertex as well? They looked blue when i checked in blender. Maybe a hue shift is in play or i am going senile?

[linolafett]

Depends on which effect exactly, the normal beam bullets (e.g. mining) are also coloured via vertex colours, yes.

[DeadAirRT]

Depends on which effect exactly, the normal beam bullets (e.g. mining) are also coloured via vertex colours, yes.

Tyvm

[heifi]

The colour is also not coming from the textures, but is encoded in the mesh vertex colours. Changing the textures will not help, the geometry has to be changed.

Ah thanks, that explains that even after the xml diffs could be loaded, I got no results so far...

[heifi]

can you pulish this please?

Yeah, I will if I get this working. I just found this tutorial from Axeface which would help me I guess: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwmZq3Vx_i8

I just have to think about if I can convince myself to install Blender

[heifi]

Thanks again for the help to everybody!



As wished I did just publish the result in the steam workshop: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 2801917051

[|K.O.S.H.]

Thanks again for the help to everybody!



As wished I did just publish the result in the steam workshop: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 2801917051

very nice!

can you also publish to nexusmods, für GoG-Users?

[heifi]

very nice!

can you also publish to nexusmods, für GoG-Users?

Never published something there before, but here you are: https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/889

[|K.O.S.H.]

very nice!

can you also publish to nexusmods, für GoG-Users?

Never published something there before, but here you are: https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/889

I love you

[mr.WHO]

The colour is also not coming from the textures, but is encoded in the mesh vertex colours. Changing the textures will not help, the geometry has to be changed.

Is it possible that one day in vanilla we will have turret texture adjusted for ship paint mod?

I don't think we need detailed 1:1 for each and every paint mod, but maybe several different color variants, then assigned to fit best to each paint mod.
E.g. White texture for white paint mods (like pearl and Aldrin), black for black (like Warden), red for red, grey would probably fit to most range of different paint mods.

[|K.O.S.H.]

The colour is also not coming from the textures, but is encoded in the mesh vertex colours. Changing the textures will not help, the geometry has to be changed.

Is it possible that one day in vanilla we will have turret texture adjusted for ship paint mod?

I don't think we need detailed 1:1 for each and every paint mod, but maybe several different color variants, then assigned to fit best to each paint mod.
E.g. White texture for white paint mods (like pearl and Aldrin), black for black (like Warden), red for red, grey would probably fit to most range of different paint mods.

I would love that...
When i use ships with terran turrets i have to paint them white, but i dont want to...

[linolafett]

The colour is also not coming from the textures, but is encoded in the mesh vertex colours. Changing the textures will not help, the geometry has to be changed.

Is it possible that one day in vanilla we will have turret texture adjusted for ship paint mod?

I don't think we need detailed 1:1 for each and every paint mod, but maybe several different color variants, then assigned to fit best to each paint mod.
E.g. White texture for white paint mods (like pearl and Aldrin), black for black (like Warden), red for red, grey would probably fit to most range of different paint mods.

There is a chance yes. Using paintmods for more things like surface elements would be very nice.

[heifi]

There is a chance yes. Using paintmods for more things like surface elements would be very nice.

That would be really cool. Space Barbie is the true endgame

[|K.O.S.H.]

DOwnloaded it. Thx a lot its awesome.

Is there a chance, that you will also recolor the split shields?

[heifi]

DOwnloaded it. Thx a lot its awesome.

Is there a chance, that you will also recolor the split shields?

Added it as optional download here: https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations ... ?tab=files
and as separate mod here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 2803819604