"Fragile extraction" or "Fatal attraction", it's one of the two. Both are about minesweeping and, in one of them, you have to personally fly the ship back to a station: that's the kind of mission I'm talking about.freiman17 wrote: ↑Thu, 14. Feb 19, 09:40Are we sure that this is true?BrasatoAlBarolo wrote: ↑Tue, 12. Feb 19, 09:18Everytime someone offers a "fragile extraction" mission, a free M ship spawns in the target sector.
Just accept the mission to be guided to it, then abort it and claim the ship for you.
I am not all that smart, but I have been trying to test this all morning, and it appears that this is not the case.
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Hi guys!
Have someone found any free split ships?
Have someone found any free split ships?
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Do the EMP bomb still work on the Odysseus Vanguard, so you dont need a marine to get it ?
EMP bomb dont seems to work in my game start anymore
Then you do the guild mission and get "Fragile extraction" just cancel the mission and selll the ship or keep it for personal use. Easy way to earn money fast
EMP bomb dont seems to work in my game start anymore
Then you do the guild mission and get "Fragile extraction" just cancel the mission and selll the ship or keep it for personal use. Easy way to earn money fast
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you will get a massive rep hit if you decide to keep it,after its been captured.L_B_P wrote: ↑Thu, 2. Apr 20, 05:28Do the EMP bomb still work on the Odysseus Vanguard, so you dont need a marine to get it ?
EMP bomb dont seems to work in my game start anymore
Then you do the guild mission and get "Fragile extraction" just cancel the mission and selll the ship or keep it for personal use. Easy way to earn money fast
(not worth it anymote)
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I analysed saves from both Split new game starts, there are no new ownerless ships than the ones posted in the beginning of the thread.
I think that fits in a big picture that the new Split starts are tough to get rich fast, but that's what we needed
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In a new game with 3.1 I got the Osprey during the rescue the Boron Mission, but the mission lead me to Tharka's Ravine XVI instead of Black Hole Sun IV. Haven't checked if the Cerberus is still in Black Hole Sun.
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I had an Osprey appear, unclaimed, directly next to my PHQ, and I’m taking less than 5km. It was lined up along the axis one way whilst facing the other axis.
Mind, this is AFTER the main plot left a gorgon in my path to find (weird they never point it out), and the usual Osprey listed above has been recovered, so it wasn’t that one either.
The old, broken mission is long since fixed, and this doesn’t match those, at all.
Too bad the Osprey is so slow. It would be great to fly with them as wingmen to my Gorgon.
It was absolutely derelict. Gray icon, the same cool, special gray paint job (with the thought provoking name of “Origin Unknown”) that at ive never seen for sale but often (always?) found on derelicts. The process to take it manually was the same as for the other Osprey (as well as the other medium to small ships). Everything quality of them I can think of matches the ones in this list, except that I’m 95% sure it wasn’t there in the beginning.
Correlation is not causation, so it’s hard to tell if something triggered a derelict to spawn, and I’ve no idea when it appeared, except that it was def after the Hub starting to produce energy and some amount of early research collected, so I don’t even know which event *correlate”
Anyone have any theories?
I don’t have left any saves from that long ago, sadly, but I do still have both Ospreys. The derelict came with all Split parts on it. I know that’s weird and likely meaningless, but it felt worth sayin. It just didn’t fit anywhere else. Also I started with the weaker of the two starts that pretend you’re part of ALI (even though they only name you a member at rank ten, and that title doesn’t do anything special I can find). I digress
Mind, this is AFTER the main plot left a gorgon in my path to find (weird they never point it out), and the usual Osprey listed above has been recovered, so it wasn’t that one either.
The old, broken mission is long since fixed, and this doesn’t match those, at all.
Too bad the Osprey is so slow. It would be great to fly with them as wingmen to my Gorgon.
It was absolutely derelict. Gray icon, the same cool, special gray paint job (with the thought provoking name of “Origin Unknown”) that at ive never seen for sale but often (always?) found on derelicts. The process to take it manually was the same as for the other Osprey (as well as the other medium to small ships). Everything quality of them I can think of matches the ones in this list, except that I’m 95% sure it wasn’t there in the beginning.
Correlation is not causation, so it’s hard to tell if something triggered a derelict to spawn, and I’ve no idea when it appeared, except that it was def after the Hub starting to produce energy and some amount of early research collected, so I don’t even know which event *correlate”
Anyone have any theories?
I don’t have left any saves from that long ago, sadly, but I do still have both Ospreys. The derelict came with all Split parts on it. I know that’s weird and likely meaningless, but it felt worth sayin. It just didn’t fit anywhere else. Also I started with the weaker of the two starts that pretend you’re part of ALI (even though they only name you a member at rank ten, and that title doesn’t do anything special I can find). I digress
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I wonder if one can spawn PHQ plot from Split station to receive free Cobra
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Did it many times... besides it a nice way to get out of Split space and into the heart of the "old worlds" with a ship (at least) worth it's salt. It just gives random Gorgon, Cerberus or Osprey
EDIT: Since we are in the "Spoilers" section, you get a Cobra as "part" of the Split storyline after the Hatikvah plot.
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Hi there. Anyone know if this list is still current in 3.2? Tried hunting down the first Elite Vanguard in my game but it was nowhere to be found. Does it depend on if there's a mission on or not?
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The list up to the Odysseus is correct. Furthermore these are the ONLY abandoned ships. You also get (as a bonus) a corvette when you execute the "Escape Plan" in the PHQ (Boron) plot which one depends on the original owner of the system, so it's Cerberus for ARG/ANT, Gorgon for PAR/HOP and Osprey for TEL/MIN. The addition of the Split DLC did not bring another one so in ZYA/FRF space you get randomly one of the three above...Elvis Aphtee wrote: ↑Wed, 24. Jun 20, 23:09Hi there. Anyone know if this list is still current in 3.2? Tried hunting down the first Elite Vanguard in my game but it was nowhere to be found. Does it depend on if there's a mission on or not?
The ships you see on the list after the Odysseus are these and, of course they can appear, almost, everywhere, it's just that the players did not associate them with the mission. Also ships "appear" when you get the "Obstacles" missions either from the ANT guild or the TEL guild, these are inside a minefield and you are supposed to get them out and deliver them. If you decide to keep them (cancelling the mission or letting it run out of time or landing in another station than the one you have to) you get a rep hit of -3 with the faction.
EDIT: The Elite you refer is in Grand Exchange I and it is extremely up, close to the corner of the hexagon and also extremely high...
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You'll know you are close to it when you see Xenon fighting either SCA or Khaak or Khaak fighting SCA. A good fighter (Perseus and above) can clear the scene so you can retrieve it.
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Same (but extremely down) goes for the courier too.
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The Drill is in a danger area and if you are not extremely fast it will disintegrate and you'll die if you are in it at the time.
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The Osprey is very easy to find, near the Xenon Gate in Company Regard. It's problem is that it is too slow and you have to get it to a warf to give it some speed.
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The Odysseus is in Xenon territory that is filled with mines, the "bug" that you could get it through the airlock like the others or by using EMP is fixed, so you have to send a Marine to take it. My advise is send a Marine (keep only one in your ship, turning the others in Service crew) with at least one star in piloting (boarding skill is irrelevant as there is nobody in the ship). Just shoot it a bit for the shields to go down so the Marine's pod will land easily and disappear from there (preferably teleporting out). Tell you ship to land on the Odysseus so that they'll travel together to safety. Very easy if you do it this way... they'll reach True Vision pronto, if you stay on board prepare for the flight of your life (usually ending in your death and reload) since you will meet 2 K's that you have to dodge with their P's and M's that will be chasing you like awakened bees!!!
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Many thanks for taking the time to reply.dtpsprt wrote: ↑Thu, 25. Jun 20, 00:44The list up to the Odysseus is correct. Furthermore these are the ONLY abandoned ships. You also get (as a bonus) a corvette when you execute the "Escape Plan" in the PHQ (Boron) plot which one depends on the original owner of the system, so it's Cerberus for ARG/ANT, Gorgon for PAR/HOP and Osprey for TEL/MIN. The addition of the Split DLC did not bring another one so in ZYA/FRF space you get randomly one of the three above...Elvis Aphtee wrote: ↑Wed, 24. Jun 20, 23:09Hi there. Anyone know if this list is still current in 3.2? Tried hunting down the first Elite Vanguard in my game but it was nowhere to be found. Does it depend on if there's a mission on or not?
The ships you see on the list after the Odysseus are these and, of course they can appear, almost, everywhere, it's just that the players did not associate them with the mission. Also ships "appear" when you get the "Obstacles" missions either from the ANT guild or the TEL guild, these are inside a minefield and you are supposed to get them out and deliver them. If you decide to keep them (cancelling the mission or letting it run out of time or landing in another station than the one you have to) you get a rep hit of -3 with the faction.
EDIT: The Elite you refer is in Grand Exchange I and it is extremely up, close to the corner of the hexagon and also extremely high...SpoilerShowYou'll know you are close to it when you see Xenon fighting either SCA or Khaak or Khaak fighting SCA. A good fighter (Perseus and above) can clear the scene so you can retrieve it.SpoilerShowSame (but extremely down) goes for the courier too.SpoilerShowThe Drill is in a danger area and if you are not extremely fast it will disintegrate and you'll die if you are in it at the time.SpoilerShowThe Osprey is very easy to find, near the Xenon Gate in Company Regard. It's problem is that it is too slow and you have to get it to a warf to give it some speed.SpoilerShowThe Odysseus is in Xenon territory that is filled with mines, the "bug" that you could get it through the airlock like the others or by using EMP is fixed, so you have to send a Marine to take it. My advise is send a Marine (keep only one in your ship, turning the others in Service crew) with at least one star in piloting (boarding skill is irrelevant as there is nobody in the ship). Just shoot it a bit for the shields to go down so the Marine's pod will land easily and disappear from there (preferably teleporting out). Tell you ship to land on the Odysseus so that they'll travel together to safety. Very easy if you do it this way... they'll reach True Vision pronto, if you stay on board prepare for the flight of your life (usually ending in your death and reload) since you will meet 2 K's that you have to dodge with their P's and M's that will be chasing you like awakened bees!!!
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You get a Frigate.dtpsprt wrote: ↑Thu, 25. Jun 20, 00:44You also get (as a bonus) a corvette when you execute the "Escape Plan" in the PHQ (Boron) plot which one depends on the original owner of the system, so it's Cerberus for ARG/ANT, Gorgon for PAR/HOP and Osprey for TEL/MIN. The addition of the Split DLC did not bring another one so in ZYA/FRF space you get randomly one of the three above...
The shields do not need to be shot as they have no relevance on claiming a ship at all. Once the pod is launched simply fly away and let low attention logic work.dtpsprt wrote: ↑Thu, 25. Jun 20, 00:44The Odysseus is in Xenon territory that is filled with mines, the "bug" that you could get it through the airlock like the others or by using EMP is fixed, so you have to send a Marine to take it. My advise is send a Marine (keep only one in your ship, turning the others in Service crew) with at least one star in piloting (boarding skill is irrelevant as there is nobody in the ship). Just shoot it a bit for the shields to go down so the Marine's pod will land easily and disappear from there (preferably teleporting out). Tell you ship to land on the Odysseus so that they'll travel together to safety. Very easy if you do it this way... they'll reach True Vision pronto, if you stay on board prepare for the flight of your life (usually ending in your death and reload) since you will meet 2 K's that you have to dodge with their P's and M's that will be chasing you like awakened bees!!!
To get it out you need to time it such that it will pass the Faulty Logic Super Highway when there are no Xenon ships in low attention. Once in the sector that has no mines it can be manually flown at travel speeds into the jump gate to safety.
If the play has time, they can just wait until HOP naturally claims the sectors as their own as the Xenon have no ability to prevent HOP from taking the sectors due to the ludicrous size of HOP assault fleets. As long as the player does not go to war with HOP they can then order the ship to safety in low attention and let it be.
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@Imperial Good: I've heard that it's no longer possible to claim abandoned L/XL (eg the free Ody) ships manually (ie /not/ using the EMP trick, that was specifically removed): you must use a marine. Some ppl have even mentioned some DEV stating this is the case, but no-one has yet provided a link that I've seen (& I don't see the change in any patch notes). Can you categorically confirm or deny this please, just so I don't waste several frustrating hrs trying to do something that was previously possible?
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none of these are findable in my game... coords are empty
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The Split plotline does not give you abandoned ships (except for the Cobra) but it gives you all three mentioned above.SubSeven2003 wrote: ↑Thu, 14. Jan 21, 13:07none of these are findable in my game... coords are empty
The rest 6 abandoned ships (mentioned) are there but there are no coordinates for them as the map does not use coordinates.
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None of the ships listed as "abandoned" are available in my game. (I didn't need them but I was curious to check the locations). I checked out the areas to see if anything interesting (OR FUN) would happen but of course nothing was there and I just damped down my expectations for the rest of the game. :egosoft:
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Oh... they are... I find then both in V3.30 and V4.0 moded and vanilla but they are "out" of sector (you need to push the sector to expand in some a bit in others more) and always a bit (or more) above/below the ecliptic. the only one that is in the sector as it appears is the Drill in The Void but it is into the dangerous zone, so if you go there onboard your ship it will start desolving (along with your ship) and there is very little to no time to claim it...Poopzone wrote: ↑Thu, 21. Jan 21, 10:05None of the ships listed as "abandoned" are available in my game. (I didn't need them but I was curious to check the locations). I checked out the areas to see if anything interesting (OR FUN) would happen but of course nothing was there and I just damped down my expectations for the rest of the game. :egosoft: