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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by alt3rn1ty » Thu, 18. Mar 21, 00:44

Bit more feedback on this one, could be seen as a bug but really its just unfortunate timing.

After you complete this little mission, you get a couple of messages from the Obarths Captain with thanks and to let you know their races terraforming is coming along and ..
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to let you know the Boron can keep his station
.. I hung around in Sol to go criminal hunting and get my Terran rep out of negative and in the plus.

When you get plus rep for helping, there is a little thank you for helping video message, which I think does not trigger until it is clear to trigger without stomping on any other messages the player may get.

In the case of the Torus mission end of mission messages, the thanks for stomping on criminals video messages interrupt the end of mission video messages.

On both of the last two Torus mission video messages, I was unfortunate enough to have both of them interrupted with Thanks video messages, pretty much a second or two after the Torus messages began.
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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by ChrisF0001 » Thu, 18. Mar 21, 01:26

Gosh, that's all a lot more straightforward than what I had to go through...

I forget the exact sequence (1, 8, 6, 3,... something? The parity of 3 seemed important) - but anyway, I set them all to green. A download started, got to about 60% then paused, and the PA said something along the lines of 'access denied, rerouting nodes'. I fiddled with more stuff. About this time covers started closing over some of the panels, sometimes the repair laser opened them, sometimes not.

Eventually I became frustrated, saw that nobody had posted a thread like this yet... and on a pure hunch, set them all to red. This seemed to help a bit, but it still didn't complete - I think around this time the PA started greeting me as various named officers. So I set them all to green again - and then the sequence completed, the download finished, there was a bit of a light show, the exit door opened, and I could fly straight out.

I did notice there was a ninth switch by the exit with a cover over it (at least when I finally spotted the thing) - I was wondering if it was a reset of some sort, but the puzzle completed before I was able to get to it.

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by razoth » Thu, 18. Mar 21, 01:57

ChrisF0001 wrote:
Thu, 18. Mar 21, 01:26
[...] A download started, got to about 60% then paused, and the PA said something along the lines of 'access denied, rerouting nodes'. [...]
you're right I almost forgot about that part. There is a scripted event, where the "torus-defense-ki" resets some of the switches and you have to do it again with different connections/links. And I'm not sure but if I remember correctly she said something about guarding them, so there might be more of the covered switches the second time. I didn't really notice, because I did that without thinking about it with the same strategy as before (might have just been lucky though).

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by cyberman999 » Thu, 18. Mar 21, 03:42

Can anyone post the correct sequence for the 8 switch puzzle?

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by grumble3141 » Thu, 18. Mar 21, 04:24

cyberman999 wrote:
Thu, 18. Mar 21, 03:42
Can anyone post the correct sequence for the 8 switch puzzle?
I did already but then I only had to do it once I didn't get the message some got and have to start all over. Don't know if it's because I didn't waste any time or not but my download completed first try.

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by Anda1839 » Thu, 18. Mar 21, 10:16

Thanks guys.
I think i have been misguided by the Cover tust goes over certain switches.

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by BaskB » Thu, 18. Mar 21, 11:12

cyberman999 wrote:
Thu, 18. Mar 21, 03:42
Can anyone post the correct sequence for the 8 switch puzzle?
The "spoiler" earlier on page 1 contains the sequence. I can confirm after writing mine down last night also its the same sequence I had.

One downside I found to the whole chain (being a paranid player here currently in save) was being left in Earth after the end of the mission with no "cover", obviously with the Owl speed I didnt need to fret too much but still to be left out there in the lurch seems a bit off really...

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by TimmyVortex » Thu, 18. Mar 21, 17:12

*edit* Once you know how it works it's not that hard. However (!!!!) it was pretty annoying since I overcomplicated things myself and was anxious to get out of there :evil:
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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by flatbush71 » Thu, 18. Mar 21, 19:21

I can't get past the airlock with the tunnel and you guys are telling me there's all this other nonsense go through yet ?
Unbelievable !! :evil:
I'm totally disappointed, all I wanted was the ships, stations etc

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by Mr.Killer » Thu, 18. Mar 21, 21:57

grumble3141 wrote:
Wed, 17. Mar 21, 21:37
Agent256 wrote:
Wed, 17. Mar 21, 20:22
just did the last part:
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every switch triggers one other, but two of them will actually switch 2 other switches
links: (means activate x with repair beam -> y,z will activate/switch too):
1 -> 2
2 -> 1,3
3 -> 4
4 -> 5
5 -> 4
6 -> 5
7 -> 8
8 -> 6,7
just pick an activation order that doesnt trigger switches twice (of course switches should be all red in the beginning)
for example 8,5,2 should work
no guarantee for mistakes on my part :D
Would work if they all started off/red I don't know if it changes but mine started 1, 2, 7, 8 on/green and protected 3, 4, 5, 6, off/red.
I had not seen the logic, yet I was searching for it hasty, but, failed...
So I went on with the code you provided, shot all switches as possible in one session to red and then started at 1, 2, 7, 8, 3, 4, 5 and six... The ones that turned green by itself I left alone and went on to the next, that did the trick.

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by MAJ Ownage » Fri, 19. Mar 21, 06:26

Guys, honest feedback: this mission is frustrating and not fun, and I just want to get back to playing regular ol' X.

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by BaskB » Fri, 19. Mar 21, 10:36

MAJ Ownage wrote:
Fri, 19. Mar 21, 06:26
Guys, honest feedback: this mission is frustrating and not fun, and I just want to get back to playing regular ol' X.
Actually, personally while the same initially as yourself and VERY frustrated with it, now I know how it works doing something "different" was actually a little fun, perhaps it could be expanded on BUT not make it a mission chain requirement.... e.g...

Player Station Maintainance games... "if" the player wishes could play mini games like this to get temp production boosts/bonuses to your factories. Like Populations are then, you DONT have to do them if you don't wish but those that do choose too could get production bonuses...

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by LandogarX4 » Fri, 19. Mar 21, 21:17

I found the mission frustrating because the repair laser did not work properly on one of the panels. I had to go very close to it (in the anomaly already) at a weird angle. There should really be some visual indication of whether the repair laser is currently having an effect. I did not have the patience to do the puzzle myself, so I looked it up here right from the start.

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by Savyi » Sat, 20. Mar 21, 00:25

I find the mission frustrating because my game seems to be bugged. I got the data, escaped the "station" and then the next mission point starts.
Now I am supposed to deliver the data, but the mission only says "dock at". No marker, nothing.

Autopilot says dock at Oberth, but the ship is gone from the universe. Can someone tell me where the ship is supposed to be at this point?

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by Lord-Malice » Sat, 20. Mar 21, 02:11

This mission is cancer! I had to repeat 2 steps because it glitched. Then I get the gain access part when I am on the wrong side of the door! 5 hours wasted trying to find a work around...which there isn't one since the access tubes close behind you when doing the spacesuit part to open the big doors.

Also, can't abort to try a "do over" as if I want to do it all over again.

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by JonathanVQP » Sat, 20. Mar 21, 08:00

This mission is definitely very frustrating and the pattern is definitely random. The problem with these pattern solutions is that they mostly assume 1,2,7,8 are red and 3,4,5,6 are green and Closed (or protected). If 1,2,7,8 are red then the solution is simple (as stated earlier in these threads). However, since I start out as 3,4,5,6 all red and open (not protected) and 1,2,7,8 all green and closed the solution is not so simple. I can change 3,4,5,6 from red to green while 1,2,7,8, remain green then nothing happens. The transfer is still paused. I have gone through every single permutation I can think off but I cannot seem to get 1,2,7,8 to change. Changing 3 from red to green changes 4 to green automatically. While changing 6 from red to green automatically changes 5 from red to green. Another solution I read in the thread was: 3-6-2-3-5-3-8 but this doesn't work since again 1,2,7,8 don't appear to get changed. Also, there is a youtube that shows a solution to his but with 1,2,7,8 as red. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWaKE_ALAoo). Any help or ideas is appreciated!

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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by Alm888 » Sat, 20. Mar 21, 08:14

This mission was definitely fun.
Got my brains fried at the switches part, but overall did not experience any glitches.

Hint: the farside part is easy to green-out, but one of the switches there affects the closest part. At the second stage (when the shielding begins to kick-in) one MUST ensure the closest group of four switches (3, 4, 5 and 6) has even distribution of red and green. If there is odd distribution (1 green to 3 red, or 3 green to 1 red), the side can not be greened-out.

Hint2: Make sure all your ships are safe somewhere, as you can not control them while in disguise.
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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by bakterius » Sat, 20. Mar 21, 08:14

Lord-Malice wrote:
Sat, 20. Mar 21, 02:11
This mission is cancer! I had to repeat 2 steps because it glitched. Then I get the gain access part when I am on the wrong side of the door! 5 hours wasted trying to find a work around...which there isn't one since the access tubes close behind you when doing the spacesuit part to open the big doors.

Also, can't abort to try a "do over" as if I want to do it all over again.
Same here... I enter in, go to side tunnel, open first door.. then mission stuck... i cant see any switch or new tunnel.. 2 hour waste

EDIT: Repair laser broken... need fly too close to switch.. i almost die due hazzardous gas... finally step forward..
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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by Sujic » Sun, 21. Mar 21, 03:00

I haven't even gone past the first airlock and I already hate it. Constantly going in and out of the ship, zones that instantly kill you if you're in the space suit, so you can't even fly through the just opened door instead of going through the side tunnel. Whoever designed this mission needs some spanking...I was already annoyed when that Teladi idiot told me to bring Nav Beacons after I already arrived at the destination.
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Re: [spoiler] Torus Mission Feedback

Post by Mores314 » Sun, 21. Mar 21, 09:23

flatbush71 wrote:
Thu, 18. Mar 21, 19:21
I can't get past the airlock with the tunnel and you guys are telling me there's all this other nonsense go through yet ?
Unbelievable !! :evil:
I'm totally disappointed, all I wanted was the ships, stations etc
A small passage opens to the side. Grab your space suit and traverse it.

lol I am red-green colour blind. It was only after asking my daughter that she told me that the "repair" symbol was red, and the "gun" symbol was green. Oh my!

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