[TESTREQUEST] Jolt Physics

[Cratz]

Hello guys, i'm playing x4 beta 6 493483 and the Large destroyer ships turn very fast and randomly on themself at every collision with the small ships fleet, it's horrible and hard to play,please help me to fix that.

[Cratz]

Here the quick video of them: https://www.veed.io/view/961706c0-6d6c- ... anel=share

[alessandrofavero]

Here the quick video of them: https://www.veed.io/view/961706c0-6d6c- ... anel=share

Dev needs the save... can you load it??

[kennet0508]

I havent seen any clipping in the latest beta 4 "so far" BUT i think id rather have a little no-clip action if docking exeeds an alotted timeframe. as ships will no longer clip making some docking situations will have ships stuck permanently in the docking procedure until you leave the sector.

Video for context:
- https://youtu.be/FooGVK0OwrA

How about if say:
IF XX Time since dock = critical
Do no-clip

That way if the ship takes more than a minute or 2 to dock, the ship has no-clip tag and it can freely correct itself.
Alternatively, if XX time since dock = critical
Abort, fly away and retry

[strask412]

EMP Bomb flies beneath surface of station. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PnDj0l ... share_link In the save you are floating right outside the station module I was attempting to EMP bomb, you have more bombs so you can try it yourself. The bombs sink through the nearest surface and become inaccessible. The resulting signal leaks are also inaccessible. This is on beta3.

Tested in beta 4; this issue remains. Scanning signal leaks on most station modules still problematic.

[alt3rn1ty]

Quick question ..

Does Jolt use CPU or GPU ?

NVidia Control Panel does not know about it currently.

[alt3rn1ty]

.. also, if it uses the CPU, and given this game needs more CPU than GPU, would it be beneficial to be able to change it to GPU .. Obviously it needs to be recognised by NVidia first before we can (or maybe it could be an in-game setting?).

[DocAce]

Jolt is a CPU-only engine.

[CBJ]

.. also, if it uses the CPU, and given this game needs more CPU than GPU, would it be beneficial to be able to change it to GPU

As DocAce has very succinctly explained, this isn't an option, but since Jolt makes very good use of the CPU's threading capabilities, it's also not really an issue. In fact the use of Jolt has actually improved the performance of the game somewhat, by spreading the overhead of the physics simulation better and reducing the impact of that element of the overall game simulation on the framerate. Moving that to the GPU wouldn't improve it further, and could actually have a negative effect under some circumstances due to increased GPU load.

[alt3rn1ty]

[Khugan]

Playing Beta 6 - 494230
Colossus carrier with attack order on Xenon K. The s-class wing launches from the carrier in chaos, colliding and, indeed clipping into the carrier. They try to reach the K and will fly the carrier (pushing it) sideways all the way there. I teleported into the fighter to be sure, and it was inside the model of the Colossus Carrier.

I've had s class collide with Xenon K, knocking it down, causing it to drift in uncontroled flight. Several instances of capitols drifting pitched up or down with engines off. I assume they had collided with an S class.

It's as if mass is not a thing with this new engine. I am not a fan of Jolt at least not what I have seen so far.

[Pejot]

Beta 4. Tokyo subordinates can get inside Tokyo hull when docking or undocking while the carrier moves. They get stuck inside and can't get out without leaving them in low attention. S ships also get stuck in destroyed xenon wharf.

Don't have a save right now but I'll add it when I see it again.

From observation they get into the ship model via back wall of the room with landing pads.

[Pejot]

Beta 4. Tokyo subordinates can get inside Tokyo hull when docking or undocking while the carrier moves. They get stuck inside and can't get out without leaving them in low attention. S ships also get stuck in destroyed xenon wharf.

Don't have a save right now but I'll add it when I see it again.

From observation they get into the ship model via back wall of the room with landing pads.

Save file as promised. Lots of S stuck inside Tokyo (Galahad). They got there when trying to undock while the ship started moving.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cclIGr ... share_link

[Pejot]

Beta 4. Tokyo subordinates can get inside Tokyo hull when docking or undocking while the carrier moves. They get stuck inside and can't get out without leaving them in low attention. S ships also get stuck in destroyed xenon wharf.

Don't have a save right now but I'll add it when I see it again.

From observation they get into the ship model via back wall of the room with landing pads.

Save file as promised. Lots of S stuck inside Tokyo (Galahad). They got there when trying to undock while the ship started moving.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cclIGr ... share_link

Additional info. They are able to get outside if they hit the mark of XL shield module. There's no collision for them around shield module.

[Reavan07]

Hello,

I running a custom game and couldn't go through the gate from Brennan's Triumph to Neptune. I was able to go through the gate from Neptune to Brannans; just not the other way. Looks like only the XL ships were able to go through it, but I saw dozens of M-hauler types stuck. Game acts like I'm hitting a physical object instead of going through it.

Solutions?

[alessandrofavero]

Solutions?

if you do not place a save I doubt that the Dev will pass you provide "a solution"

[Gergin]

{[Beta 4]
I'm not 100% certain this is a JOLT issue but seems to be the likely culprit.

Shooting Small/Medium enemies with Thermal Disintegrators causes them to effectively be set adrift and they will stop trying to maneuver.
This behavior is not 100% consistent with Medium targets but does occur.

It looks like the root cause is the impact of ANY weapon impact and TD projectiles sticking to targets and applying damage to them constantly and therefore is constantly affecting their movement.
I did some testing with multiple weapons against targets docking/undocking and confirmed that all weapons cause an effect on the target's movement but TDs stop them completely and cause them to rapidly vibrate in place. This specific behavior does not happen with Medium targets.

I have confirmed none of this behavior occurs in V5.x
I have confirmed this behavior persists between save files.
I have only tested this with Small TDs but I doubt the behavior changes with Medium TDs

[Pejot]

{[Beta 4]
I'm not 100% certain this is a JOLT issue but seems to be the likely culprit.

Shooting Small/Medium enemies with Thermal Disintegrators causes them to effectively be set adrift and they will stop trying to maneuver.
This behavior is not 100% consistent with Medium targets but does occur.

It looks like the root cause is the impact of ANY weapon impact and TD projectiles sticking to targets and applying damage to them constantly and therefore is constantly affecting their movement.
I did some testing with multiple weapons against targets docking/undocking and confirmed that all weapons cause an effect on the target's movement but TDs stop them completely and cause them to rapidly vibrate in place. This specific behavior does not happen with Medium targets.

I have confirmed none of this behavior occurs in V5.x
I have confirmed this behavior persists between save files.
I have only tested this with Small TDs but I doubt the behavior changes with Medium TDs

I think it's not only TD thing. TER Bolt turret can push S ships back and force turn M ships if they're close.

[Gergin]

I think it's not only TD thing. TER Bolt turret can push S ships back and force turn M ships if they're close.

It's not, all weapons exhibit the behavior but TDs make it extremely visible due to their sticky behavior and constant damage application.
Split Gatlings can also mess with enemies at close range due to the volume of fire.

[talon_65]

2 Instances so far where while on EVA placing EMP bombs on an Engine Part module and an Advanced Electronics Module where the EMP went off I could clearly see all 4 nodes on the surface but an invisible barrier prevented me from getting close enough to the module to scan. I recorded video but the file attachment wont let me attach it so I uploaded them here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPzR0EbTGks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuX32n6iA38