Pirate Falcon Vanguard - Cargobay issue

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Pirate Falcon Vanguard - Cargobay issue

Post by BrigandPhantos77 » Fri, 19. May 23, 13:25

So if this was intentional / by design; oh well. But if not, the Pirate Falcon Vanguard has an extremely small cargo bay. And it is only upgradeable by 15 units. In case nobody ever caught it.

Starting Cargobay: 57, upgradeable to 72. Seems wrong for an M3. The standard Pirate Falcon is 124/374.

The standard can carry L size freight, and the vanguard can only carry M size.
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Re: Pirate Falcon Vanguard - Cargobay issue

Post by Agimar » Mon, 22. May 23, 10:45

Yes.

But have you noticed the rather strong weapon-generator (in comparison to the Teladi-versions)?
It's almost like an M3+.

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Re: Pirate Falcon Vanguard - Cargobay issue

Post by BrigandPhantos77 » Tue, 27. Jun 23, 23:29

Agimar wrote:
Mon, 22. May 23, 10:45
Yes.

But have you noticed the rather strong weapon-generator (in comparison to the Teladi-versions)?
It's almost like an M3+.
From what I can tell, all of the Vanguard variants are designed with bigger energy generators like the M3+ variants. But the others are superior in every other capacity including cargo bay.

The problem you encounter with the Pirate Falcon Vanguard is that, you cannot take advantage of it unless you skimp on shields.

Max shield is 3 x 25 MJ. This is 30 weight. Leaves 42 weight for weapons and nothing else. 1 HEPT is 6 weight and as it's an M3 it has 8 weapons slots. 8 x 6 = 48. So max weapons is 7 HEPT if you want full shields. And lets face facts, this ship is essentially useless as it's slower than most other of it's size. It will restrict you to PAC or IRE which don't need that size power. It might support using PBG for extended periods, but at they are larger than HEPT you can have even less. PBG is 7, so you can have max 6.

Maybe a 4 PBG / 4 PAC split (heh heh stupid Split) setup might be ok, but it essentially makes it no different than a blastclaw without turrets.

It suffers from the same issue as Deca ships. You can build them, but can never fully equip them. (Deca for different reason obviously.)

Anyway, I'm done griping. I'll never use it. True Light Seeker is a much better protected glass cannon. At least they can absorb some hits. :D
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Re: Pirate Falcon Vanguard - Cargobay issue

Post by Agimar » Wed, 28. Jun 23, 10:50

It's a cheap M3 for attack-duties. Nothing more. Give it shields and guns, nothing else. No brainer.

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