felter wrote: ↑Fri, 2. Jun 23, 22:06
The first thing I did when I went onto that site was to find out how they decide if a country is corrupt or not, and I couldn't find it probably me not looking hard enough, but low and behold the most reliable site on the internet Wikipedia once again showed me the way as they announced how they come to their conclusions, I was expecting something like reliable and accountable sources or some kind of in-depth investigations but nope what did I find
expert assessments and opinion surveys
in other words, gossip.
Anyway, over the last several years the UK has been embroiled in controversy and corruption allegations, even right now the UK government is being accused of corruption and a cover-up over their handling of Covid-19, so you would think a site dedicated to corruption would be holding the UK to account but what do you know, they actually find the UK to be one of the best but not just that but over the last 2 years they decided they have got better even less corrupt. You know that saying don't believe anything you read on the internet, well I do think that site is the perfect example of this being true.
What you believe it, you're personal opinion is apparently better than "gossip" by experts and businesses on the countries of the world. Quelle surprise. I don't think you know what corruption is - additionally, you've not the vaguest clue of the rest of the world either. If it's all "relative", then... where do you think the UK should, based on your opinion, be? I'm very very curious how you view what you've listed as the be all and end of all of corruption in the UK without knowing or listing any other areas of concern.
As they say "Daniel Bruce, Chief Executive of Transparency International UK:
“This sharp fall in the UK’s score is a powerful indictment of a recent decline in standards in government and controls over the use of taxpayer money. These findings should set alarm bells ringing in Downing Street. The underlying data clearly indicate that business executives and other experts are concerned about insufficient controls on the abuse of public office and increasingly view corruption and bribery as a real issue in Britain. This is the strongest signal yet that slipping standards are being noticed on the world stage.”
In the absence of any other way of actually evaluating it (seriously, how do you propose?), it's about the best we've got. And your response is "well, I think it rubbish because of one thing, covid, and clearly its therefore more corrupt than the rest".
Reminds me of a certain saying "fed up of hearing from experts". Look where that got us
The UK’s CPI score is based on data from eight independent sources including the Economist Intelligence Unit and the World Economic Forum. All surveyed experts and business executives for their views on abuses of public office for private gain and bribery in the UK.
Data for this year’s CPI was collected between November 2019 and October 2022, during which time:
Details continued to emerge of the government’s ‘VIP lane’ for fast-tracking offers of PPE from companies with political links. Our research previously warned this process appeared systemically biased in favour of those with connections to the party of government.
A cross-party parliamentary watchdog raised concerns that decisions on how to award money from the £3.6bn towns fund, designed to boost economic growth in struggling towns, were not impartial and were politically motivated.
We revealed 40 potential breaches of the ministerial code that were not investigated in the past five years. Details of almost all these potential breaches emerged during the CPI data collection period.
An investigation revealed wealthy donors to the Conservatives who gave at least £3million and took on a temporary role as the party treasurer commonly went on to be given a place in the House of Lords.
I mean, you only mentioned one of those (also, check out what corruption means). As previously mentioned, there's no way to take it as absolute gospel. They can't, for starters, know every bit going on. But compared to Joe Public, who really has put zero effort into finding out about anywhere, I think it's fair to say it has a lot more credence.
Finally, UK didn't have 100. It's basically got a 3/4. There is indeed corruption. The fact they've got it going downwards implies it's getting worse/failing to be addressed. Genuinely would love to know where you'd place the UK compared to other countries on the list, and upon what you are basing that opinion upon.