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Re: Russia-Ukraine War?

Post by Panos » Fri, 4. Mar 22, 08:57

Chips wrote:
Sun, 27. Feb 22, 18:50
Hate to dial back a few pages, been away you see...
Panos wrote:
Thu, 24. Feb 22, 22:16
Everything was fine until UK, USA and EU toppled the leggaly elected government in 2014, put puppet dictatorship of the neonazis-russian haters of West Ukraine.
Any source on it being the west toppling the elected Government? AFAIK it was people rising up as Ukraine Govt suddenly changed direction massively...
Watch this to the end it will explain everything. Ukrainians are those speaking, and is a year old but was reposted

https://youtu.be/4Ox7Pqkg1-8

You will understand what is happening and what happened at the protests too and who instigated them.

Yanukovych was the elected president in the 2010 elections with 48.95%, won the parliament elections of 2012 with 31%.
So he was legally elected when they toppled him in 2013-early 2014.

And who toppled him? The €5bn given by the EU in support for Poroshenko. (again watch the video)
Who's second day in office (not elected, just put on the seat) was to ban the usage of Russian & Greek languages in the country. Anyone not accepting this leave the country. And that in a country which eastern half are -80-95% ethnic Russians and Greeks.

And his second act was to demand from Russia close the naval base in Crimea immediately. An area which was given in 1964 and is 95% Russian & Greek ethnic, but who new that there will be a split of USSR to countries. And Ukraine kept with an agreements not change the status.


FYI nobody talks about the Greeks in Ukraine who are there before the Russians, let alone the Ukranians. Are there before Homer and the Troy war, 4000 years ago. And that is something even Putin said 10 years ago. They are been persecuted by the Ukrainians too, yet nobody talks about those hundreds of thousand of people. In some areas are ethnic majority by almost 100%. Why?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Warenwolf » Fri, 4. Mar 22, 09:08

@Panos

Linking to a conspiracy peddler will not convince anyone with IQ above 60.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Beeley

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Panos » Fri, 4. Mar 22, 10:10

How many of you find acceptable thousands upon thousands of Russian students been cut off from their bank account in Europe?
Not been able to buy food, pay rent, go back to their home country while are expelled by the universities for been Russians? What is their crime? Been Russians?
Isn't that outright racism our benevolent leaders have used as an excuse to place some crazy laws to curb free speech over the last 15 years?

What if they weren't Russians. But they were banned because they were Jews, or Blacks, or LGBTQ+ or unvaxed.
You won't be screaming about racism, discriminations, human rights?

Have you realized that while our politicians raising the finger pointing at Putin have committed crimes against humanity? And not only against the Russian people but us who elect them and pay them to manage a country and turned to dictators Europe hasn't seen since the days WWII?

Have you forgotten this is a test to see if we can accept social credit system and the chinafication of our lives?
Have you forgotten the Canadian protesters who had their bank accounts frozen, their property confiscated with a single press of a button because they protested? No court hearing. No trials. Just like that.
As it happened to the Russians students in Europe. How about the Russian patients in hospitals who cannot now pay their treatment? Or pensioners who cannot get their money to live?
How about the European students in Russia or patients who are cut off from their money? At least Russia hasn't banned european students from their universities. But the EU cut off all access to money for both sides with the blessing of our governments.

Have you forgotten the last 2 years, our european governments imposed an inhumane junta, ruling by decree, against all laws and Constitutions, against the TEU and the human rights set on it, against international treaties like Oviedo, they hold so dear, even against the 96/46 UN Resolution? (which includes the Nuremberg code and definition of genocide).

Have you forgotten they waged a propaganda war, made your life difficult just to force you take the jab? How many thrombophiliac friends have to die because of the vax who had no choice, take it or die on the streets without food.

Have you forgotten they put the police to beat you because you protested and wanted to breath fresh air without a mask?

Have you not seen how Republican states in USA (mainly Florida, S Dakota, Texas), or Africa are living free last 2 years like nothing is happening?

Have you forgotten the destruction of our economies last 2 years?

Have you forgotten how many doctors, scientists are been persecuted, media destroyed just because they were against the narrative? They didn't even stop to cut off the President of the United States for speaking out. Look at what happened to RT & Sputnik now. Tomorrow is anyone else who tried to speak out.

Have you forgotten they are moving forward with the chinafication of our lives in Europe and they are not hiding it?
Today is your vax pass in your mobile, tomorrow your ID card added to it, and next day your workers card you need to scan and has 24/7 geotracking, by end of the year CBDC and CO2 limit.

What? I am conspiracy theorist? Pay closer attention what is happening in Greece. Alongside the vax pass (which they will never abolish is been said), electronic ID pass (already implemented) the mandatory employee ID is added to the government mobile phone app in June 2022. With 24/7 geotracking for the employers to know if and how many hours you work, where you are and "make your live easier".

Have now a look at Sweden with the testing of the CO2 tracking app for mobile, which counts everything in relation to CO2 against a limit will be set by our "benevolent leaders".
Pop to see the CBDC articles in ECB now.

Compare all these to the lives of the average Chinese since 2016 with their social credit system in place on their mobile phones.

And you still believe our politicians and the MSM that they tell the truth about the war between Ukraine and Russia? :gruebel:

Wake up for haven sake. Look what is happening around us. Russia is not the enemy. Is the gaslighting needed like with the pandemic to accept the next step of measures against our liberties and our lives and completely destroy democracy (what ever is left still) in Europe. This crisis is been used to destroy our finances, take our homes and impose the CBDC the ECB said is ready to impose soon. (The British have the House of Lords who opposed the CBDC in a report last month, but I do not trust them).

They do not hide their agenda imposing GS and "4th Industrial revolution" which we will be slaves. They do not hide they are abolishing democracy and impose a technocracy, and all this because we the Europeans stopped thinking. We should stand up as we have done for thousands of years in our history.

How many times our ancestors bravely fought each other for petty squabbling between kings, emperors, money or freedom?

Why we do not want to fight right now for our lives, our liberties, our families and our children against the most dangerous threat we ever faced as humans? And ofc is not Russia or Putin but our employees calling themselves politicians and leaders.... :roll:

Where there will be no future and no possibility to ever recover if we allow them to move to the next phase. Our liberties are ending soon, look again at the Russian students in Europe and the Canadian protesters what is coming for us all if we do not stop it now.

Please stop and think what I wrote before you respond. Reflect at your lives the last 24 months.


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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Panos » Fri, 4. Mar 22, 10:11

Warenwolf wrote:
Fri, 4. Mar 22, 09:08
@Panos

Linking to a conspiracy peddler will not convince anyone with IQ above 60.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Beeley
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by mr.WHO » Fri, 4. Mar 22, 10:19

Panos wrote:
Fri, 4. Mar 22, 10:10
How many of you find acceptable thousands upon thousands of Russian students been cut off from their bank account in Europe?
Not been able to buy food, pay rent, go back to their home country while are expelled by the universities for been Russians? What is their crime? Been Russians?
Isn't that outright racism our benevolent leaders have used as an excuse to place some crazy laws to curb free speech over the last 15 years?
Dude, are you serious?
There are multiple cities sieged and bombed as we speak and you say we should continue business as usual?

You have all right pointing out hypocrisy of last 30 or even 70 year, because for most cases that what the world was doing.
The fact that US screwed in Iraq and in Afganistant doesn't give Russia any right to screw in Ukraine.

If anything Russia should be smarter after those two blunders.

It's like saying that, if other pillage and burn, then it's fine for us to do it as well.
Guess what, it's not.

West learned it in hard way and it seem Russia need to leard it as well.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by CBJ » Fri, 4. Mar 22, 10:24

Stay on the subject of the current situation, and keep the conspiracy theories out of this.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Panos » Fri, 4. Mar 22, 11:43

mr.WHO wrote:
Fri, 4. Mar 22, 10:19
Panos wrote:
Fri, 4. Mar 22, 10:10
How many of you find acceptable thousands upon thousands of Russian students been cut off from their bank account in Europe?
Not been able to buy food, pay rent, go back to their home country while are expelled by the universities for been Russians? What is their crime? Been Russians?
Isn't that outright racism our benevolent leaders have used as an excuse to place some crazy laws to curb free speech over the last 15 years?
Dude, are you serious?
There are multiple cities sieged and bombed as we speak and you say we should continue business as usual?

You have all right pointing out hypocrisy of last 30 or even 70 year, because for most cases that what the world was doing.
The fact that US screwed in Iraq and in Afganistant doesn't give Russia any right to screw in Ukraine.

If anything Russia should be smarter after those two blunders.

It's like saying that, if other pillage and burn, then it's fine for us to do it as well.
Guess what, it's not.

West learned it in hard way and it seem Russia need to leard it as well.
This is Germany right now.

https://youtu.be/7kNKW2S5TOw

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by chew-ie » Fri, 4. Mar 22, 11:48

Panos wrote:
Fri, 4. Mar 22, 11:43
This is Germany right now.

https://youtu.be/7kNKW2S5TOw
Not really, it is an isolated incident. (living in Germany)

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Warenwolf » Fri, 4. Mar 22, 11:52

Panos wrote:
Fri, 4. Mar 22, 11:43
This is Germany right now.
That is a hate crime that I am sure will be handled by german police.
Despicable - yes. But you know what? Nothing compared to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3_R__r7Go

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Removed from Ukraine thread

Post by Panos » Sat, 5. Mar 22, 14:52

mr.WHO wrote:
Fri, 4. Mar 22, 19:38
Panos wrote:
Fri, 4. Mar 22, 19:23
mr.WHO wrote:
Fri, 4. Mar 22, 18:04
Good news, the Zaphorozian Nuclear Power Plant has been put to sucessful shut down, so there is no risk of meltdown now.

Still there are more Power plants on the path of r*tarded red bear.
The plan was captured last week by Russia without a single opposition. Why they would need to bomb it now?
Think.

Even USA said today the whole incident might be a false flag by Ukraine.

And no reactor was damaged. Just some offices and the fire was put our by the Russians.
So you want to say that super stealth Russian commandos quietly capture A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT deep behind enemy lines and hold for a week without nobody noticing?

Yeah, seems very plausible.
It was on the news last weekend that was captured. It was no secret. It is also next to the Russian border.
You better open a map.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Panos » Sat, 5. Mar 22, 15:12

This morning, 215000 civilians at Mariopol were going to leave the city after Russian forces asked them to get to a safe place out of the city and in the established areas to receive help by the Russian logistics units.

Ukrainian Azov brigade, attacked the civilians who tried to leave the city, killed several. Only 4 managed to flee to the Russian side.
Also bombed a build with 200 civilians still in the ruins.

Just an hour ago the official Ukrainian army used a Tochka-U missile against the Azov headquarters as SW side of ther city, destroying it completely. Is uknown how many of the Azov fanatics are dead.
An official Ukrainian army commanding officer said, that Azov is gone rogue, they do not obey orders and harming civilians while the city is lost.


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FYI Azov is the unit senator Lindsey Graham visited in 2016, before the elections, saying that 2017 they will be in the offensive with the help of USA and win against Russia.
Trump won the elections against all predictions and put the whole situation on ice like every other war that was planned (against N Korea for example if you remember the narrative 6y ago) cutting deals and even allowing Syrians to take back their country.
Even if due to a proven false flag for a chem attack, bombed the country.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by clakclak » Sat, 5. Mar 22, 15:20

Panos wrote:
Sat, 5. Mar 22, 15:12
This morning, 215000 civilians at Mariopol were going to leave the city after Russian forces asked them to get to a safe place out of the city and in the established areas to receive help by the Russian logistics units.

Ukrainian Azov brigade, attacked the civilians who tried to leave the city, killed several. Only 4 managed to flee to the Russian side.
Also bombed a build with 200 civilians still in the ruins.

Just an hour ago the official Ukrainian army used a Tochka-U missile against the Azov headquarters as SW side of ther city, destroying it completely. Is uknown how many of the Azov fanatics are dead.
An official Ukrainian army commanding officer said, that Azov is gone rogue, they do not obey orders and harming civilians while the city is lost.


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FYI Azov is the unit senator Lindsey Graham visited in 2016, before the elections, saying that 2017 they will be in the offensive with the help of USA and win against Russia.
Trump won the elections against all predictions and put the whole situation on ice like every other war that was planned (against N Korea for example if you remember the narrative 6y ago) cutting deals and even allowing Syrians to take back their country.
Even if due to a proven false flag for a chem attack, bombed the country.
Source?
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Tamina » Sat, 5. Mar 22, 15:48

Of course he has no source, because he just spreads his Russian propaganda as "news", actively approving Russians commiting Genozide in Ukraine on civilians.

The citizens of Mariupol tried to flee further into the country, after the Russians invaded Ukraine and bombed the city for 5 days straight, hence why they had to flee in the first place. Atm, there is no way to actually know who broke the ceasefire.
The narrative of Ukraine bombing their own cities is a usual pattern told by Russian Propaganda to explain why the cities are destroyed after the Russian forces reached the city.
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Sat, 5. Mar 22, 15:12
@Panos Did it ever occur to you, that the media - which is completely controlled by the Russian government - could have any motivation to hide from you what the very same Government is doing? Do you think Putin would do something bad and then order the media to tell all about it? Especially regarding the events currently, that a lot of independent news outlets are closing in Russia?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by CBJ » Sat, 5. Mar 22, 16:03

Once again, that is enough of the conspiracy theories and misinformation Panos. Any more of it and your posting rights will be removed.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Panos » Sat, 5. Mar 22, 18:30

CBJ wrote:
Sat, 5. Mar 22, 16:03
Once again, that is enough of the conspiracy theories and misinformation Panos. Any more of it and your posting rights will be removed.
Misinformation? Because you only listen one side of the story means everything else is a lie?

Google translate it
https://www.pronews.gr/amyna-asfaleia/e ... vallistiko

Some include links English from TASS
https://www.el.gr/war/russia/emfylios-a ... niko-stra/

https://www.makeleio.gr/%ce%b5%ce%be%cf ... %99%ce%9f/

State Department yesterday demanded to stop retweeting and delete all related content by the embassy in Kiev saying that Russia bombed the nuclear powerplant (who had captured days ago without firing a shot).
They called liars their own embassy staff. And I am the one spreading misinformation?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... NewsSearch
https://www.pronews.gr/amyna-asfaleia/d ... n-pyriniko


Do you want videos from Greek locals in Ukraine speaking? Can post them too. Do you know someone you trust to translate them?

Please all think that the misinformation campaign is done by our governments and MSM in the EU.
Jen Psaki yesterday said USA will continue buying Russian oil because it will raise the prices which is bad for the people and the economies worldwide.

It includes the video saying it.
https://www.el.gr/diethni/gaiostratigik ... yn-na-ago/


USA and rest of the planet do not stop buying energy from Russia. Only EU is destroying the economy of all member states, of all of us the people in Europe.
If you still believe the media of our countries in EU to tell the truth, and I am the one speeding misinformation fine cut me off this discussion access.


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Re: Removed from Ukraine thread

Post by CBJ » Sat, 5. Mar 22, 18:56

You were warned. Do not post in the Off Topic forum again. If you do, your posting rights in the rest of the forum will also be suspended.

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