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Post by dmakx281 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 00:53

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Fri, 18. Mar 22, 04:52
Even more reason i wont buy the new dlcs. Western devs and their virtue signaling shenanigans are annoying and come off extremely hypocritical.

Egosoft has already fallen into the woke bs (they're germans...so kinda expected) and now they pretend they care about ukranians (spoiler: they don't) the same way they cared about Palestinians, Syrians, Yemenis, etc...or maybe, like the us media said, the non ukranians were brown so westerners (inlcuding Egosoft) dont care about them. So much for the woke image they created for themselves.

Egosoft is putting real life political crap in its game then has the audacity to tell us not to talk about politics in the forums.

Sad to see once-were great devs turning into this tbh.
The developers are not Bible believing Christians. They are apparently apostates from their ancestors' faith, and all that matters now is homosexual rights rather than hard work and obeying God's law before men's feelings. They replaced God with their own feelings. They think they know better than God when no human really knows anything, and you must do everything based on faith. As Descartes showed, no man can even prove the world outside of himself exists. Therefore, you either have hope and believe in God and ultimate meaning, or you don't believe in anything and choose to be hopeless in an ultimate sense. Therefore, you can't expect them to have the same values their ancestors had, the values that made Western civilization actually work properly. Instead, Western civilization will now collapse and be a failure like all the pagan areas of the world the West used to dominate. Ukraine is just a proxy of the corrupt USA regime of Biden, Biden's disgusting son Hunter was involved in all kinds of sexual scandals there. Expect the West to collapse within the next decade or so. The United States just destroyed itself by its unnecessary sanctions on Russia. Just wait until people cannot even get basic food and gas without being driven into poverty, because of the massive inflation and fiscal failures. That is what the West deserves for voting for Biden and insulting the Trump movement. Egosoft's woke agenda has been fairly well known for at least a few years, and appears to be getting worse. But in the end nothing to do with Egosoft will matter with all of the West collapsing.

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Post by Falcrack » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:06

dmakx281 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 00:53
Bababa wrote:
Fri, 18. Mar 22, 04:52
Even more reason i wont buy the new dlcs. Western devs and their virtue signaling shenanigans are annoying and come off extremely hypocritical.

Egosoft has already fallen into the woke bs (they're germans...so kinda expected) and now they pretend they care about ukranians (spoiler: they don't) the same way they cared about Palestinians, Syrians, Yemenis, etc...or maybe, like the us media said, the non ukranians were brown so westerners (inlcuding Egosoft) dont care about them. So much for the woke image they created for themselves.

Egosoft is putting real life political crap in its game then has the audacity to tell us not to talk about politics in the forums.

Sad to see once-were great devs turning into this tbh.
The developers are not Bible believing Christians. They are apparently apostates from their ancestors' faith, and all that matters now is homosexual rights rather than hard work and obeying God's law before men's feelings. They replaced God with their own feelings. They think they know better than God when no human really knows anything, and you must do everything based on faith. As Descartes showed, no man can even prove the world outside of himself exists. Therefore, you either have hope and believe in God and ultimate meaning, or you don't believe in anything and choose to be hopeless in an ultimate sense. Therefore, you can't expect them to have the same values their ancestors had, the values that made Western civilization actually work properly. Instead, Western civilization will now collapse and be a failure like all the pagan areas of the world the West used to dominate. Ukraine is just a proxy of the corrupt USA regime of Biden, Biden's disgusting son Hunter was involved in all kinds of sexual scandals there. Expect the West to collapse within the next decade or so. The United States just destroyed itself by its unnecessary sanctions on Russia. Just wait until people cannot even get basic food and gas without being driven into poverty, because of the massive inflation and fiscal failures. That is what the West deserves for voting for Biden and insulting the Trump movement. Egosoft's woke agenda has been fairly well known for at least a few years, and appears to be getting worse. But in the end nothing to do with Egosoft will matter with all of the West collapsing.
I suppose you consider yourself a Christian, and support the murder of innocent civilians because their government had the audacity to want to pursue a foreign policy independent of Russia?

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Post by dmakx281 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:07

Falcrack wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:06
dmakx281 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 00:53
Bababa wrote:
Fri, 18. Mar 22, 04:52
Even more reason i wont buy the new dlcs. Western devs and their virtue signaling shenanigans are annoying and come off extremely hypocritical.

Egosoft has already fallen into the woke bs (they're germans...so kinda expected) and now they pretend they care about ukranians (spoiler: they don't) the same way they cared about Palestinians, Syrians, Yemenis, etc...or maybe, like the us media said, the non ukranians were brown so westerners (inlcuding Egosoft) dont care about them. So much for the woke image they created for themselves.

Egosoft is putting real life political crap in its game then has the audacity to tell us not to talk about politics in the forums.

Sad to see once-were great devs turning into this tbh.
The developers are not Bible believing Christians. They are apparently apostates from their ancestors' faith, and all that matters now is homosexual rights rather than hard work and obeying God's law before men's feelings. They replaced God with their own feelings. They think they know better than God when no human really knows anything, and you must do everything based on faith. As Descartes showed, no man can even prove the world outside of himself exists. Therefore, you either have hope and believe in God and ultimate meaning, or you don't believe in anything and choose to be hopeless in an ultimate sense. Therefore, you can't expect them to have the same values their ancestors had, the values that made Western civilization actually work properly. Instead, Western civilization will now collapse and be a failure like all the pagan areas of the world the West used to dominate. Ukraine is just a proxy of the corrupt USA regime of Biden, Biden's disgusting son Hunter was involved in all kinds of sexual scandals there. Expect the West to collapse within the next decade or so. The United States just destroyed itself by its unnecessary sanctions on Russia. Just wait until people cannot even get basic food and gas without being driven into poverty, because of the massive inflation and fiscal failures. That is what the West deserves for voting for Biden and insulting the Trump movement. Egosoft's woke agenda has been fairly well known for at least a few years, and appears to be getting worse. But in the end nothing to do with Egosoft will matter with all of the West collapsing.
I suppose you consider yourself a Christian, and support the murder of innocent civilians because their government had the audacity to want to pursue a foreign policy independent of Russia?
It has nothing to do with being independent. They had to choose one of the great powers to side with (United States, Russia, or least likely- China). They made a deal with the devil because they thought the corrupt atheist and communist USA regime and the democrats in power would be their eventual ticket to easy riches and prosperity as part of NATO. Obviously it didn't work out for them did it? Only a fool would expect a great power like Russia to stand by and allow missiles to be placed on its direct borders. Do you think the USA would allow Mexico to do this?

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Post by Vertigo 7 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:19

You nailed it right on the head. Ukraine just wanted to be rich, so they sought out the evil democrats to strike a bargain, not paying attention at all to big tough guy neighbor with all the tanks and missiles and everything right next door. Just out of the blue a deal was struck and Putin, in his infinite wisdom, said nuh uhh, and thus, you are here today to regale us with this wonderful retelling of how a war started.

Oh and cuz Jesus or something wasn't involved, that too.

Bravo! Truly a masterpiece!
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Post by dmakx281 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:31

Vertigo 7 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:19
You nailed it right on the head. Ukraine just wanted to be rich, so they sought out the evil democrats to strike a bargain, not paying attention at all to big tough guy neighbor with all the tanks and missiles and everything right next door. Just out of the blue a deal was struck and Putin, in his infinite wisdom, said nuh uhh, and thus, you are here today to regale us with this wonderful retelling of how a war started.

Oh and cuz Jesus or something wasn't involved, that too.

Bravo! Truly a masterpiece!
Ukraine could have chosen to see the United States as the godless corrupt shell of its former self that it is today. Ukraine also could have chosen NOT to provoke Russia, its DIRECT neighbor, unnecessarily by purchasing all kinds of USA weapons. They were always going to fall into the hands of one great power or another. They would have been better off choosing the lesser evil of Russia, which has at least forsaken its Bolshevik/Communist/Atheist past. I'm not saying Russia is perfect by any means, but in this conflict it is the lesser evil.

The United States knew from the beginning Russia would take its bait and eventually invade. Russia has ALWAYS seen Eastern Europe as its sphere, for centuries, and it will never abandon that perspective. The list of Russian military interventions into Eastern Europe is endless.

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Post by Vertigo 7 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:53

So if lets say, you wanted to make a friend with someone in another town that your neighbor hated. So your neighbor threatens to kill you if you become this other persons friend. Do you be the good little boy and do what your neighbor tells you to do or are you capable of making decisions for yourself and your neighbors opinions have jack to do with how you live your life?
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Post by Falcrack » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:17

dmakx281 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:07
Falcrack wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:06
dmakx281 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 00:53


The developers are not Bible believing Christians. They are apparently apostates from their ancestors' faith, and all that matters now is homosexual rights rather than hard work and obeying God's law before men's feelings. They replaced God with their own feelings. They think they know better than God when no human really knows anything, and you must do everything based on faith. As Descartes showed, no man can even prove the world outside of himself exists. Therefore, you either have hope and believe in God and ultimate meaning, or you don't believe in anything and choose to be hopeless in an ultimate sense. Therefore, you can't expect them to have the same values their ancestors had, the values that made Western civilization actually work properly. Instead, Western civilization will now collapse and be a failure like all the pagan areas of the world the West used to dominate. Ukraine is just a proxy of the corrupt USA regime of Biden, Biden's disgusting son Hunter was involved in all kinds of sexual scandals there. Expect the West to collapse within the next decade or so. The United States just destroyed itself by its unnecessary sanctions on Russia. Just wait until people cannot even get basic food and gas without being driven into poverty, because of the massive inflation and fiscal failures. That is what the West deserves for voting for Biden and insulting the Trump movement. Egosoft's woke agenda has been fairly well known for at least a few years, and appears to be getting worse. But in the end nothing to do with Egosoft will matter with all of the West collapsing.
I suppose you consider yourself a Christian, and support the murder of innocent civilians because their government had the audacity to want to pursue a foreign policy independent of Russia?
It has nothing to do with being independent. They had to choose one of the great powers to side with (United States, Russia, or least likely- China). They made a deal with the devil because they thought the corrupt atheist and communist USA regime and the democrats in power would be their eventual ticket to easy riches and prosperity as part of NATO. Obviously it didn't work out for them did it? Only a fool would expect a great power like Russia to stand by and allow missiles to be placed on its direct borders. Do you think the USA would allow Mexico to do this?
Are you such a fool that you cannot see a map and view the relative positions of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in proximity to Moscow, compared to Ukraine? They are virtually identical. Yet at no point prior to this little murder party being thrown by Putin were offensive nuclear missiles ever stationed in, or even considered being stationed in, these countries. You think Putin's war has anything to do with Russian security being threatened? No, Putin was upset that Ukraine wanted to join NATO because it would make Ukraine more difficult to invade, not because Ukraine now or ever would pose a threat to Russia.

This whole debacle is strictly based on a whole series of ridiculous "what if" suppositions being made by Putin that if Ukraine were to join the DEFENSIVE alliance of NATO, that somehow NATO would begin to amass nuclear weapons right at Russia's borders. Which was never in discussion anywhere in NATO, and only existed in the paranoid mind of Putin and his enablers.

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Post by dmakx281 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:38

Vertigo 7 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:53
So if lets say, you wanted to make a friend with someone in another town that your neighbor hated. So your neighbor threatens to kill you if you become this other persons friend. Do you be the good little boy and do what your neighbor tells you to do or are you capable of making decisions for yourself and your neighbors opinions have jack to do with how you live your life?
Ukraine could have chosen to be a truly independent neutral buffer between NATO and Russia. Instead, it chose to become closer and closer to the United States/NATO, and imported many weapons from the United States. It also used those weapons to shell civilians in the Donbas region on an almost daily basis. There is documented video evidence of this fact. The apostate elites controlling the modern United States want to control the entire world, and their greed knows no bounds. They also want to destroy what's left of traditional civilization in their own countries, and the West itself. I.E., they want to commit suicide without realizing it.

If the USA had left Ukraine alone and allowed it to remain truly neutral, none of this might have happened. If Russia had invaded in that scenario, only then Russia would have been to blame. But that is a gigantic "what if". There is no way to know what Russia WOULD have done had the Democrats and Neocons in the United States not instigated this to no end, and been a thorn in the side of Russia's border. The United States also likely would have done to Cuba/Mexico the same thing Russia is doing to Ukraine, if Russia had instigated Mexico and Cuba to put massive amounts of weapons on America's borders.
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Post by dmakx281 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:42

Falcrack wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:17
dmakx281 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:07
Falcrack wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 01:06


I suppose you consider yourself a Christian, and support the murder of innocent civilians because their government had the audacity to want to pursue a foreign policy independent of Russia?
It has nothing to do with being independent. They had to choose one of the great powers to side with (United States, Russia, or least likely- China). They made a deal with the devil because they thought the corrupt atheist and communist USA regime and the democrats in power would be their eventual ticket to easy riches and prosperity as part of NATO. Obviously it didn't work out for them did it? Only a fool would expect a great power like Russia to stand by and allow missiles to be placed on its direct borders. Do you think the USA would allow Mexico to do this?
Are you such a fool that you cannot see a map and view the relative positions of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in proximity to Moscow, compared to Ukraine? They are virtually identical. Yet at no point prior to this little murder party being thrown by Putin were offensive nuclear missiles ever stationed in, or even considered being stationed in, these countries. You think Putin's war has anything to do with Russian security being threatened? No, Putin was upset that Ukraine wanted to join NATO because it would make Ukraine more difficult to invade, not because Ukraine now or ever would pose a threat to Russia.

This whole debacle is strictly based on a whole series of ridiculous "what if" suppositions being made by Putin that if Ukraine were to join the DEFENSIVE alliance of NATO, that somehow NATO would begin to amass nuclear weapons right at Russia's borders. Which was never in discussion anywhere in NATO, and only existed in the paranoid mind of Putin and his enablers.
NATO should never have incorporated Eastern Europe into the alliance. Russia has always seen Eastern Europe as its sphere. It has been a slow and steady encroachment on Russia since the year 2000.

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Post by Vertigo 7 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:45

Lol, you do realize that it's the EU that Ukraine wants to join, not the US, right?

Tell me something, how does it feel to think you know the real score but no one else does?
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Post by dmakx281 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:47

Vertigo 7 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:45
Lol, you do realize that it's the EU that Ukraine wants to join, not the US, right?

Tell me something, how does it feel to think you know the real score but no one else does?
I feel great. Plenty agree with me. No qualms whatsoever. But, I don't act based on feelings. I act based on faith. Only modern humanists base everything on feelings (and often humans cannot even agree on whose feelings are most important).

I believe in God, I have hope, I know what God expects from what is revealed based on our limited sphere of knowledge. I'm not a hopeless atheist who believes God hasn't bothered with us or there is no God.

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Post by Vertigo 7 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:49

So your faith tells you wanton slaughter is okay so long as you can call the people being murdered atheists?
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Post by dmakx281 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:51

Vertigo 7 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:49
So your faith tells you wanton slaughter is okay so long as you can call the people being murdered atheists?
They're not being murdered. Russia is defending itself from existential threats from the USA/NATO, after spending years warning Ukraine (and its sponsor the United States) to stop its activities. Ukrainians could demand their leader "Zelensky" surrender at once and stop causing needless loss of human life. There is no way they are going to beat Russia. They also should have known better than to believe the propaganda of their oligarchs and Soros that it was a good idea to invite in the United States and all its allurements.

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Post by Vertigo 7 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:00

Ohhhhh, now you're making sense. You've rationalized away the death of thousands as something other than murder, even though your god's 6th commandment is clearly "thou shall not kill", that doesn't apply here because it's their fault for being there. Got ya.

See, you whacky do religious crack pots can twist your faith to mean whatever you want it to mean at any time you feel like. You can't leave the judgement of someone's soul up to your god, you have to do it for him cuz you think you know better. You can rationalize away any action so long as you say "I'm mr faith man! look at me go!" and proceed to rape, murder, steal, whatever it is you feel like doing because you know what's best and everyone else is wrong. I'm sure if more like you got your way, we'd still be accusing people of witchcraft and burning them at the stake.

Man... you really need to go reread your bible, and actually comprehend what it's trying to tell you, if you're gonna spout insanity like this.
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Post by dmakx281 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:02

Vertigo 7 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:00
Ohhhhh, now you're making sense. You've rationalized away the death of thousands as something other than murder, even though your god's 6th commandment is clearly "thou shall not kill", that doesn't apply here because it's their fault for being there. Got ya.

See, you whacky do religious crack pots can twist your faith to mean whatever you want it to mean at any time you feel like. You can't leave the judgement of someone's soul up to your god, you have to do it for him cuz you think you know better. You can rationalize away any action so long as you say "I'm mr faith man! look at me go!" and proceed to rape, murder, steal, whatever it is you feel like doing because you know what's best and everyone else is wrong. I'm sure if more like you got your way, we'd still be accusing people of witchcraft and burning them at the stake.

Man... you really need to go reread your bible, and actually comprehend what it's trying to tell you, if you're gonna spout insanity like this.
Please learn the Bible properly before you try to argue based what is in it. You come off as very ignorant. Please read Romans 13 carefully, and also the law of war in Deuteronomy 20:10. Russia is actually following it precisely, because it is slowly surrounding and besieging the cities as God commands.
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Post by Vertigo 7 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:03

lol, ok dude, yeah, I'm the ignorant one here. Whateeeever you say bucko.
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Post by dmakx281 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:09

Vertigo 7 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:03
lol, ok dude, yeah, I'm the ignorant one here. Whateeeever you say bucko.
I always love it when atheists try to quote from the book they don't even accept as true anyway.

God allowed defensive warfare against evil threats, and did not consider it a violation of the commandments.

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Post by Vertigo 7 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:11

dmakx281 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:09
Vertigo 7 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:03
lol, ok dude, yeah, I'm the ignorant one here. Whateeeever you say bucko.
I always love it when atheists try to quote from the book they don't even accept as true anyway.

God allowed defensive warfare against threats, and did not consider it a violation of the commandments.

So then since Ukraine is defending itself from Russia, God is on Ukraine's side! You hear it here folks. God is with Ukraine! YEEEE HAWWWWWW AMEN PEW PEW PEW!
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Post by dmakx281 » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:14

Vertigo 7 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:11
dmakx281 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:09
Vertigo 7 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:03
lol, ok dude, yeah, I'm the ignorant one here. Whateeeever you say bucko.
I always love it when atheists try to quote from the book they don't even accept as true anyway.

God allowed defensive warfare against threats, and did not consider it a violation of the commandments.

So then since Ukraine is defending itself from Russia, God is on Ukraine's side! You hear it here folks. God is with Ukraine! YEEEE HAWWWWWW AMEN PEW PEW PEW!
Ukraine threatened Russia, not the other way around. Russia initially never intended to invade Ukraine. In its post Soviet treaties it explicitly guaranteed Ukraine to be a sovereign state. Russia only threatened combat operations AFTER NATO used Ukraine as its threatening proxy against Russia. Ukraine/USA started the threats, not Russia.

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Post by Falcrack » Sat, 26. Mar 22, 03:17

dmakx281 wrote:
Sat, 26. Mar 22, 02:42

NATO should never have incorporated Eastern Europe into the alliance. Russia has always seen Eastern Europe as its sphere. It has been a slow and steady encroachment on Russia since the year 2000.
Who the hell gave Russia the right to tell other nations in Eastern Europe who's "sphere" they should belong to? I suppose you are going to argue that Eastern European nations did not voluntarily join NATO, at their own request?
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