Trump Presidency

[chew-ie]

Honestly I ... didn't dare to watch the debate. Seeing this "summary" by Jon Stewart wasn't any better, but at least it was over fast.

It's getting real hard to understand the state the world is in and why nobody is doing the obvious things. (like say bringing in fresh blood for US presidency) Real hard.

[Alan Phipps]

An observation on election politics (and not just in the USA, I have to say):- I think it's less a case of parties offering up sensible people to be voted in but often more a case of them offering up people in the hope of keeping the regarded-as-nonsensical people out.

[mr.WHO]

After finishing whole debate, which was horrible, I think the main issue was CNN not thinking about something as obvious as boosting the sound from Biden microphone.

He was obviously quite tired and even if he said something that make sence, it won't get through because it was too quiet.
Manually boosting the sound on my end didn't went well, because every time Biden stop talking...Trump voice hit like a hammer on boosted sound volume.

Basically it was a torture - whoever didn't watched it, you haven't lost anything.

Honestly I ... didn't dare to watch the debate. Seeing this "summary" by Jon Stewart wasn't any better, but at least it was over fast.

His finishing point is very true - for next debate either the candidates, or the audience, prefereably both will need a lot of drugs to last to the end.

[clakclak]

Aparently Biden was having a cold during debate.

Let who never had a cold/stomach ache/head ache during important meeting/exam, be the first to throw the stone.

Now add up that both Biden and Trump are 80+ and on election campain road (which is intense like Rock Star tour), so it's perfectly possible for Biden to be on a bit slump.
For Trump as well, he's not a spring chicken anymore.

While it's good to ask, if there isn't any good 50-60-70 years old "youngsters" among 330 milion nation, don't treat it like a perfect medicine for all your troubles.

Look at Europe - Macron, Scholtz, Sunak and many more - much younger than Trump or Biden, but in the end - do they fare much better despite their younger age?



As for debate - it looks like they done dirty to Kennedy Jr. - he could have been a 3rd party to break the stale pace of the debate.

I think adding Kennedy in there would have been great not for the debate but for comedy value. A clearly confused Biden and constantly lying Trump are not enough, get the brain worm guy in there to increase the ratings.

And the reaction about the cold is something that reminds me a lot of MMA fights. After the fight the looser always had a cold, two broken legs and Polio, despite not showing any symptoms before or during the fight.

Making excuses will not safe the democratic party from loosing the election.

People claimed before that Biden would be juiced up on something and I am just sitting here wondering why they didn’t sit him down to take the old nose bicycle for a ride. Give him only the finest Speed, TRT and whatever else you can find before he goes out there. Make it snow during summer! Ideally I’d want him to be on so much juice that his eyes are the size of dinner plates and that he greets the moderation team by high fiving their faces with whatever seating arrangements he can lift over his head and slam down on them.

His energy level should be that of an 80s Cuban olympic wrestler, who trains by twisting the legs of cattle with his bare hands and then beating them up with said legs. I want any anti doping agent that gets within 50 meters of him to suffer a stroke from merely laying eyes on Biden. Because and that is the important part: These TV debates are not about facts. They are about who of them is able to:

A) Produce the best zinger that fits into a short clip for Tik Tok

B) Give people the idea that you as a leader, would be capable of standing up to America’s enemies

C) repeat your own talking points as often and as fast as you can! As I know at least one study published in a reliable psychological journal that came to the conclusion there is a direct correlation between how often a message is repeated and how reliable and “true” people judge it to be


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I would like to edit that I only saw the following:

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His finishing point is very true - for next debate either the candidates, or the audience, prefereably both will need a lot of drugs to last to the end.

after I wrote my comment.


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Honestly I ... didn't dare to watch the debate. Seeing this "summary" by Jon Stewart wasn't any better, but at least it was over fast.

It's getting real hard to understand the state the world is in and why nobody is doing the obvious things. (like say bringing in fresh blood for US presidency) Real hard.

Is watching the summary worth it if I have seen the debate purely for comedy sake, or should I skip it?

[fiksal]

as always the American politics is like an American Idol.

we want only the prettiest and with a jump in their steps. A spectacle, of passed their retirement white males

content doesn't matter.


I knew who I was gonna vote for 10 years ago

[Chips]

Biden looked so weak and confused that I'd wager he'd accidentally suffocate himself attempting to put on a rain poncho (if the need arose); meanwhile, Trump would grab it by the pocket.

It's a strange world when you can be utterly derogatory about UK politics, yet suddenly find it entirely balanced and reasonable aften just 10 mins of the US debate.

[Falcrack]

If I were to advise Biden at this point, he needs to go before the American people and address the issue of his age and potential mental decline while in office head on. Not pretend it doesn't exist or that everything is fine. People do get dementia, even very good people. There is no shame in that. It is a natural condition.

Biden needs to make it abundantly clear that if he is diagnosed with dementia/Alzheimer's by competent physicians while in office, that he will resign. Make it clear that a vote for him is a vote for Harris as his vice president. Be very candid and forthright about this. I think it is too late to change the Democratic candidate, but at least he has a vice president who can take charge if he is found to be incapacitated by medical conditions.

The presidency should not be about one person's ego. Biden needs to let people know that his priorities are that of our nation's, not his personal pride or ambition to be president. That would truly set him apart from Trump.

[matthewfarmery]

While I agree with this, the same must also apply to Trump, he has clear signs of dementia, and that just isn't getting highlighted enough. If Biden was to drop out because of his health issues, then the same must apply to Trump. As there been clear signs his is getting worse.

[Falcrack]

While I agree with this, the same must also apply to Trump, he has clear signs of dementia, and that just isn't getting highlighted enough. If Biden was to drop out because of his health issues, then the same must apply to Trump. As there been clear signs his is getting worse.

Trump absolutely lacks the humility to step aside if he were to mentally decline. He would cling to power to his latest breath, regardless of whether it were in the best interests of the nation.

[EGO_Aut]

I would be in favor of an age limit of 60 (not only in us). Let the old puppets retire and look after their grandchildren.

[mr.WHO]

60 years was elderly age....like 50 years ago.
Hell, it was an old age in 19-century Bismarck Prussia where they first created retirement age.



These days 60 is still young - will be even more in future, as technology progress along with general population getting older globally (including Africa).

As it is right now, the age limit should be around 70-80 and probably revised upward every 2-3 decade - it's quite possible that 50 years in future, age of 80 will be like age of 60 today.

[Chips]

John Stewart..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9LZXheHddI

Jon digs into the backlash to America’s bed-wetting panic over Biden’s incoherence, some of the president’s recent slip-ups, the future of the Democratic candidate, and Biden’s promise in an ABC interview with George Stephanopoulos to give “fighting fascism” his all

[burger1]

Trump clipped by bullet or got injured by the secret service when they covered him on the ground? Gun person shot dead?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-cam ... -1.7263122

[Falcrack]

Trump clipped by bullet or got injured by the secret service when they covered him on the ground? Gun person shot dead?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-cam ... -1.7263122

This is just about the worst thing that those opposed to Trump could do. What a horrible, horrible turn of events.

[Vertigo 7]

ikr... shoulda had better aim. for shame!

[Falcrack]

ikr... shoulda had better aim. for shame!

The point is, you won't kill the cancer that is Trumpism by killing Trump. The problems and divisions in our country run far deeper than a single man. This will only serve to increase those divisions, even if he had been killed.

[Vertigo 7]

True, we need a purge. In the meantime, taking out the Oompa Loompa king will throw the MAGA morons into chaos and disrupt any hopes of project 2025 getting off the ground for them.

[RegisterMe]

True, we need a purge. In the meantime, taking out the Oompa Loompa king will throw the MAGA morons into chaos and disrupt any hopes of project 2025 getting off the ground for them.

Trump as a martyr? No thanks.

[Vertigo 7]

He's only a martyr if that's how you view him. I don't. All these MAGA fools are less than filth and deserve no less.

I seem to recall 4 years ago you guys chastizing me for saying we needed to kick the republicans in the damn teeth after the Jan 6 riot. But no, you wanted to coddle them and hold their hands and wipe their bums and try to reason with them. Meanwhile, they spent the last 4 years becoming further ingrained in their irrationality and wrote a damn how-to guide for dismantling the US and replacing it with a white-nationalitst monarchy under the orange one's leadership.

You got a better idea than taking them out?

[humility925]

I guess it's might look bad for democratic because someone might think supporter democratic want to shoot up in Trump areas, it's would might help trump winning in this case, in grand scheme of things and make people more questionable on democratic.

I don't know why not Third-party and independent candidates for president? Currently Robert F. Kennedy could win while people might got sick of democratic and republican many years, they shouldn't keep same vote again and again while it's got worse for common people as time went by in usa, might well try something new, like third party and independent to see if got job better than democratic and republican, Idk. (Noticed I'm USA Citizen, I don't vote, it's just worthless, I prefer right not to pay tax, fee or any fine that IRS pass to us, that is gave us citizen lot more power than vote for someone, it's gave common people control money, not government who happen to be waste moeny, cause people homeless, poor, and corrupted. Right not to pay any form to government gave loud voice, people meant business, vote for someone to speak for people are not very reliable, and not same mindset view of ideological even in same party, often they lie or they are unable to get job done due congress won't support or againt it.

I think it's better common people control over money, not government, not even IRS, that would keep them in check, so they don't abused power over people. Theory., basic government do not had power to create law or rule to milking people's money, or cause people homeless in name of law they create of. (There is good and bad law or mix, but they do create law to making profit and same time try control people that way.