[Discussion] Generic X3TC S&M questions II

[Coruskane]

e.g. current player notoriety, notoriety of ship vs. sector, player fight rank, etc, etc

hmm true.

[Point Man]

Currently I am in the Process of Developing a Weapon mod but I have hit a snag...When I update the Tlaser and Tbullet files within the .cat file they do not update...They save and when reopened the saved changes are there but the VFS does not seem to update ingame and the Weapons are still the same..Why is That?

Note: I am using X3 Editor 2

[Ketraar]

Seams you are not extracting the files. The Editor does not save files within cats.

Editing Terran Conflict - The Very Basics by enenra

MFG

Ketraar

[Point Man]

Thanks for the quick reply, should have looked a bit harder for tuts

EDIT: Found what was wrong silly me The entries for bullets start at 0 and the Tdebugger starts at 2 just had to take 2 off each entry that I added and hey it worked!

[lettuceman44]

Does someone know of a mod that makes ships quicker?

Also, is it even a good idea to have quicker ships? Also what is the max speed the ai can handle?

[TrixX]

Actually I am doing some research into that. I am going to put low poly and untextured models of the ships at +10% size in the scene files. See if that aids with the problematic autopilot...

Cadius uses separate ship collision files similar to this, but his scene files work without the base model being present, so I'm guessing that is the collision field for the ship. Increase the size of the collision field and reduce the polies and it may just solve the issues with autopilot and IS suicides on Solar Panels...

[lettuceman44]

Interesting........in theory it seems plausible as the model itself isn't as complex, although I don't see how an increased collision field would help?
Wouldn't that make it so the ai would go more bonkers as it would collide with things from further away?


Also, uh, I tried looking for an answer, but just couldn't find it. How do you spawn ships in game using the editor?

[Carlo the Curious]

In the SE? create ship.

[lettuceman44]

Thank you so much!. Oo, bookmarking that site too .
Thanks again!

[TrixX]

Actuall the Fleet Collision Fix mod worked similarly to this except instead of making the collision field bigger (in the scene file) it made all the ships tiny and redid the scene positioning of the emissive parts to compensate. This made all fighters about 10% of current size (screwing up sound and so on) but also made them able to fly in squadrons and avoid crashing easily. I am just reversing the idea and increasing the collision box itself so formation flying and solar suicides are less common (after FCF broke my first game )

[Coruskane]

Hello,

I am having some problems with a global variable and arrays:

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* Update reference global variable with this new ship type we have found
$Lib.Ships.ArraySize = size of array $Lib.Ships
inc $Lib.Ships.ArraySize =
resize array $Lib.Ships to $Lib.Ships.ArraySize
$Lib.Ships[$Lib.Ships.ArraySize][0] = $ship.Ship
$Lib.Ships[$Lib.Ships.ArraySize][1] = $ship.Power.Max
$Lib.Ships[$Lib.Ships.ArraySize][2] = $ship.Power.Lasers
$Lib.Ships[$Lib.Ships.ArraySize][3] = $ship.Power.Engines
set global variable: name='plugin.Cor.SS.Lib.Ships' value=$Lib.Ships

I suspect that I am either instancing a 2d array wrong, or I am incorrectly adding arrays to a global variable.

I would appreciate you having a look..tearing my hair out

The full script is attached https://www.humyo.com/FWQbYxl/Public/a. ... tvIczaztqE

[ScRaT_GER]

resize array $Lib.Ships to $Lib.Ships.ArraySize
$Lib.Ships[$Lib.Ships.ArraySize][0] = $ship.Ship

$Lib.Ships has now $Lib.Ships.ArraySize elements, which means that the last element is $Lib.Ships.ArraySize - 1.
Thus you try to assign to a array element which does not exist.

Additionally $Lib.Ships[$Lib.Ships.ArraySize][0...3] does not simply exist, but you have to explicitly put an array there.

I'd do it like this:

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$new.Ship = create new array, arguments=$ship.Ship, $ship.Power.Max, $ship.Power.Lasers, $ship.Power.Engines, null
append $new.Ship to array $Lib.Ships

Greetings,
ScRaT

[mark_a_condren]

I would be tempted to do it this way to avoid the whole "size starts at 1" and "index starts at 0" thing.

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* Update reference global variable with this new ship type we have found 

$new.ship.array = array aloc: size = 4

$new.ship.array [0] = $ship.Ship
$new.ship.array [1] = $ship.Power.Max
$new.ship.array [2] = $ship.Power.Lasers 
$new.ship.array [3] = $ship.Power.Engines 

append $new.ship.array to array: $Lib.Ships

set global variable: name='plugin.Cor.SS.Lib.Ships' value=$Lib.Ships 

EDIT:
Beaten by ScRaT_GER


MarCon

[Coruskane]

ok, thanks. Good stuff

@ScraT:

resize array $Lib.Ships to $Lib.Ships.ArraySize
$Lib.Ships[$Lib.Ships.ArraySize][0] = $ship.Ship

$Lib.Ships has now $Lib.Ships.ArraySize elements, which means that the last element is $Lib.Ships.ArraySize - 1.
Thus you try to assign to a array element which does not exist.

whoops! n-1 coming 'atcha.

Additionally $Lib.Ships[$Lib.Ships.ArraySize][0...3] does not simply exist, but you have to explicitly put an array there.

Hmm, so to extract a global variable of Array type I first have to instanciate an array within which to place the extracted array? I didn't realise X was slightly-strongly-typed ..assumed it would make the datatype of the new variable, $Lib.Ships, the same as the data it is receiving.

Well, that is good in a way. I prefer explicit language...fewer headaches and unexpected errors. (Ruby is the devil's language...)

I'd do it like this:

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$new.Ship = create new array, arguments=$ship.Ship, $ship.Power.Max, $ship.Power.Lasers, $ship.Power.Engines, null
append $new.Ship to array $Lib.Ships

Wouldn't that make a 4 dimensional array?

And to be able to find the relevant ship's array, wouldn't I need the global variable to have an index column comprised of the ship type, with the x column comprised of the references to the nested array? Therefore 2d array is minimum for the global?

@Mark:

I would be tempted to do it this way to avoid the whole "size starts at 1" and "index starts at 0" thing.

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* Update reference global variable with this new ship type we have found 

$new.ship.array = array aloc: size = 4

$new.ship.array [0] = $ship.Ship
$new.ship.array [1] = $ship.Power.Max
$new.ship.array [2] = $ship.Power.Lasers 
$new.ship.array [3] = $ship.Power.Engines 

append $new.ship.array to array: $Lib.Ships

set global variable: name='plugin.Cor.SS.Lib.Ships' value=$Lib.Ships 

So you are saying have a unique array for each ship, with the global variable array simply referencing each array as opposed to what I was trying (and failing to do) which was have a multi-dimensional global array within which all the elements I want will sit as-is.

In that case, what will the 1-d array actually have as its data? Won't its [y][0] values be the name of the array placed there? i.e. [0][0]=$new.Ship.Array?

If that is the case, then how can I extract the correct index from the global variable, when knowing only $Ship.Type?

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Beaten by ScRaT_GER

Goodie...More stuff for me to thiink about

I undestand multi-dimensional arrays, because I understand matrices. I would search the [n][0] values for the $Ship.Type, then extract the corresponding [search result][0...Xn-1] elements of info.

However, I am not sure I understand nested arrays ..time to experiment

Thanks you two, apologies for the long reply.

[Point Man]

How do I make a ware run a script....I mean When a ware is in the cargo bay of the ship make it run a script constantly? I can't figure out what to use (Trying to make a Shield regenerator that regens 5% every 20 secs). I got the script down and working but only runs once...and that brings me to my second question how do I get the script running multiple times?

Sorry bout the newby questions but only just got into scripting and run outta tuts to follow so trying my own crap now!

Any help you could give to get me started on it would be nice

Cheers

Point Man

[ScRaT_GER]

I didn't realise X was slightly-strongly-typed

The type system of X is like the one in Python. You can assign any value to any variable, but every variable has a certain type at every time.

Wouldn't that make a 4 dimensional array?

No, it's actually the same thing mark_a_condren does, but a bit more compact.
You could reference the $ship.Power.Max of the 10th ship in $Lib.Ships by writing $Lib.Ships[9][1] - so it's two dimensional.

And to be able to find the relevant ship's array, wouldn't I need the global variable to have an index column comprised of the ship type, with the x column comprised of the references to the nested array?

You could do a linear search through all first indices or you could use two arrays, one holding the ship types, the other one the values.

However, I am not sure I understand nested arrays

Nested arrays ARE mutli-dimensional arrays. An array of arrays is like a matrix and is two dimensional. An array of arrays of arrays is three dimensional, like an array of matrices.

I got the script down and working but only runs once...and that brings me to my second question how do I get the script running multiple times?

Use a loop:

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while ($someConditionIsTrue)
  * Do something 
end

Greetings,
ScRaT

[mark_a_condren]

Point Man

To expand on ScRaT_GER's reply, you could do something like,

$current.shield.percent = $target.ship get shield percent

while $current.shield.percent < 100

| Add the required amount of shield percentage

|@ = wait 12000 ms

| $current.shield.percent = $target.ship get shield percent
end

This would loop every 20 seconds adding the required shield amount until the shields are back to 100%

MarCon

[ThisIsHarsh]

No help for my query before, so here it is again:

Anyone know any resource or simple method whereby I can obtain the exact notoriety gains/losses caused by killing enemy/friendly ships?

[Point Man]

Thanks for the replies it works...damn it's so obvious...now anyway

EDIT: I still don't know how to make the item have to be in a ship for it to work though....any ideas?

[Coruskane]

Harsh, just to confirm; you mean before the event?