Trump Presidency

[clakclak]

Well, I guess the masks are coming off now. No more double talk or playing at something else. They feel so safe they are not even longer trying to hide what they are.

[Warenwolf]

Well, I guess the masks are coming off now. No more double talk or playing at something else. They feel so safe they are not even longer trying to hide what they are.

Well, apparently republicans in USA think it was accidental gesture which can happen to everyone.

[clakclak]

Well, I guess the masks are coming off now. No more double talk or playing at something else. They feel so safe they are not even longer trying to hide what they are.

Well, apparently republicans in USA think it was accidental gesture which can happen to everyone.

Yeah....two times in a very short speech. Surely accidently. And here I went my entire lifetime without ever doing it once.

Edit: Probably also important. Elon Musk edited out the salute when uploading the video of his speech to twitter.

Elon Musk has edited footage of his speech during Donald Trump's inauguration to remove what appeared to be a Nazi salute.

In a video posted on his X social media platform, the billionaire's gesture, which he repeats twice, is missing from his nearly four-minute speech. The second gesture is captured in the footage, followed by Musk saying "My heart goes out to you" to the crowd.[...]

Source: https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/ ... i-34518758

Edit 2:

To lighten the mood a bit: Here is former polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki in a weird altercation with the secret service, trying to get entry to the inauguration by showing them his wikipedia entry. I do not know if he ever managed to get entry, maybe mr.WHO can shed some light on this, as I am afraid my polish is limited to like 2 sentences and the auto translation of an article by the polish branch of buisnessinsider did not really yield anything useful.

[chew-ie]

Well, I guess the masks are coming off now. No more double talk or playing at something else. They feel so safe they are not even longer trying to hide what they are.

The important part of this is IMHO better reported by theguardian.com:

“My heart goes out to you,” Musk said, striking himself on the chest again. “It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured. Thanks to you. We’re gonna have safe cities, finally safe cities. Secure borders, sensible spending. Basic stuff. And we’re gonna take ‘Doge’ to Mars.”

T & M have a radical plan and lack the reality check. M just uses the only trick in his playbook: disrupt. But that doesn't go so well in an area which affects human lifes. What works for economy doesn't work for people (in fact, disruption in economy also means that people e.g. loose their jobs).

It is also vital to understand that M is just a CEO and has no respectable background. He (as CEO) talking about "in x years we are on Mars" is laughed at by people who REALLY know what is doable - including extrapolations (both optimistic and pessimistic). It is vital to understand that the job of CEOs is to push pipedreams but A LOT OF THEM are not making it into reality. And it is therefore vital to understand that what voters are looking for CAN'T be delivered by the likes of M - because stability of income, economy and other social topics are simply not the focus here. Everybody looking for that has to be aware that IF something is improving that this is only a byproduct and a rare one to begin with as the focus is diametrically opposed.

tl;dr: I wouldn't focus on the Nazi symbolic [only] here and instead look at the real problem.

[clakclak]

Well, I guess the masks are coming off now. No more double talk or playing at something else. They feel so safe they are not even longer trying to hide what they are.

The important part of this is IMHO better reported by theguardian.com:

“My heart goes out to you,” Musk said, striking himself on the chest again. “It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured. Thanks to you. We’re gonna have safe cities, finally safe cities. Secure borders, sensible spending. Basic stuff. And we’re gonna take ‘Doge’ to Mars.”

T & M have a radical plan and lack the reality check. M just uses the only trick in his playbook: disrupt. But that doesn't go so well in an area which affects human lifes. What works for economy doesn't work for people (in fact, disruption in economy also means that people e.g. loose their jobs).

It is also vital to understand that M is just a CEO and has no respectable background. He (as CEO) talking about "in x years we are on Mars" is laughed at by people who REALLY know what is doable - including extrapolations (both optimistic and pessimistic). It is vital to understand that the job of CEOs is to push pipedreams but A LOT OF THEM are not making it into reality. And it is therefore vital to understand that what voters are looking for CAN'T be delivered by the likes of M - because stability of income, economy and other social topics are simply not the focus here. Everybody looking for that has to be aware that IF something is improving that this is only a byproduct and a rare one to begin with as the focus is diametrically opposed.

tl;dr: I wouldn't focus on the Nazi symbolic [only] here and instead look at the real problem.

You are certainly right. The issues, the deeper issues, will however take some time to work through. I mean there is a lot to unpack in all of the executive orders Trump just signed. Many of which, like withdrawing from the WHO, paris climate accord and ending sanctions on West Bank settlements are not suprising, but there is so much here that it will take a day or two to really unpack.

[matthewfarmery]

“An executive order President Donald Trump signed Monday night vows to end birthright citizenship in the U.S., despite broad legal consensus that the Constitution guarantees American citizenship to nearly everyone born on U.S. soil,” Politico reports.

“Trump’s order directs federal agencies to refuse to recognize U.S. citizenship for children born in the U.S. to mothers who are in the country illegally or here legally on visas, if the father is not a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident.”

“The order would deny U.S. citizenship, including passports, to those children born in the U.S. starting 30 days from now, if at least one parent isn’t an American citizen or green card holder.”

No doubt this will be challenged, and probably shot down. But then again, he will probably take this to the SC, and with that corrupt court in session, it probably could go either way. either they stand by the constitution, or they don't, and if they don't, America will be in a dark place and getting darker by the second. Om top of everything else he has signed. This is going to be a real mess, no mistake.

edit

Federal hiring freeze

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... ng-freeze/

He is insane. But, yes, more and more of his dictatorship fantasy is coming to light. No longer president, but a true dictator. And we still have 4 years of this to go. I'm sick of planet and US as humans, But he will only get worse as time goes on.

[mr.WHO]

To lighten the mood a bit: Here is former polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki in a weird altercation with the secret service, trying to get entry to the inauguration by showing them his wikipedia entry. I do not know if he ever managed to get entry, maybe mr.WHO can shed some light on this, as I am afraid my polish is limited to like 2 sentences and the auto translation of an article by the polish branch of buisnessinsider did not really yield anything useful.

Aparently, he got an interview near Capital One Arena, but got lost and went to National Guard to ask for direction.
National Guard asked for his ID, which he didn't took with him, so he tried to use Wikipedia page about himself to prove his ID (which is still dumb, coz all that you can prove with it, is that you lookalike).

Can't blame NG for beign diligent.
I read day before that Capital security is on high alert from possible Lone Wolf (not gonna lie, Morawiecki sometimes give those "Shady AF" vibes ).

Still, we had a bit of laugh here in Poland, because we tend to carry our ID with us - "I don't have any ID with myself" is usally a dumb*ss moment, or instant red flag for police.

[clakclak]

I think one of the funniest things to come out of this administration so far is 'Stargate', how Trump called it: "[the] largest AI infrastructure project in history." Which, according to the oracle CEO could, among other things, be used to develope mRNA cancer vaccines, which I find hilarious given who Trump's fanbase are.

[chew-ie]

..and the more AI buzzwords are sprinkled the more one can be sure that they have no clue what they are talking about. Tech talking about AI is only to save their huge investments they did so far in those areas (and which will not work for every use case they'd thought it would be the silver bullet for...)

[matthewfarmery]

So, Trump is handing out temp security clearances without background checks. No surprise, Trump just getting ready to transfer a whole lot of documents to Putin.

Also, Trump is threatening to withhold wildfire aid.

and also saying that FEMA is getting in the way of things. plus, he planning on axing the space council.

And

“President Trump is threatening to use his powers to adjourn Congress so he can make recess appointments for at least some of his top Cabinet nominees and their deputies, enabling them to begin running the largest federal departments,” CBS News reports.

All in all, He is going to get a lot of people hurt and killed at some point. This is total madness.

[burger1]

Looks like Trumps already trying to get a third term.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/busines ... e/6120164/

Social media and tech owners get 500billion to build ai. Sure it won't be used to manipulate stuff.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmar ... rld-of-ai/

[fiksal]

should we change the thread title to "US presidency" ?

Anyways, thank you, Denmark

https://globalnews.ca/news/10971681/gre ... -vistisen/

“Dear President Trump, listen very carefully,” Vistisen said on Tuesday in European Parliament. “Greenland has been part of the Danish kingdom for 800 years. It’s an integrated part of our country. It is not for sale.”

Vistisen went on to use some profanity that got him in trouble with the rest of the European Parliament.

“Let me put it in words you might understand,” he said. “Mr. Trump, f–k off!”

[matthewfarmery]

That is way too complex for Trump to understand. He needs drawings and pictures

Even then, he will throw out his toys in rage and demand that Greenland is taken by any means necessary.

[Observe]

Even then, he will throw out his toys in rage and demand that Greenland is taken by any means necessary.

Taking Greenland by force is not the plan. The idea is Greenland will vote for independence from Denmark and then they will vote to join the United States. Will that happen? Probably not, but who knows?

[mr.WHO]

Taking Greenland by force is not the plan. The idea is Greenland will vote for independence from Denmark and then they will vote to join the United States. Will that happen? Probably not, but who knows?

You missed the suff like Trump jr. going to Greenland and stagin that Greenland is full MAGA along with some criminal/drug trafficking influencer.
Greenland vote will be as legit as those Russian "special voting operations".

[Observe]

Well, the population is only about 60 thousand. Bribery perhaps? Give them each a couple of million dollars and most may leap at the opportunity. Probably there are a lot of Americans who would rather the government use 120 billion to 'purchase' Greenland, than on foreign wars. The whole thing seems like is a ridiculous idea to begin with, but we live in times where absurd is the new normal.

[mr.WHO]

Well, the population is only about 60 thousand. Bribery perhaps? Give them each a couple of million dollars and most may leap at the opportunity. Probably there are a lot of Americans who would rather the government use 120 billion to 'purchase' Greenland, than on foreign wars. The whole thing seems like is a ridiculous idea to begin with, but we live in times where absurd is the new normal.

Do you hear yourself? Would you like, if someone from abroad came to your country and give bribes for insurection?
Hell, even locals just giving bribes without external/insurection factor is frown upon in normal country - it's called corruption.

What will stop Putin from giving bribes in Alaska?

[Observe]

Do you hear yourself? Would you like, if someone from abroad came to your country and give bribes for insurection?

Calm down. I'm merely pointing out the ruthlessness of human behavior. It's not like any of this is new all of a sudden. This kind of BS land-grabbing is as old as the land that we probably stole from the Neanderthals.

[Warenwolf]

You missed the suff like Trump jr. going to Greenland and stagin that Greenland is full MAGA along with some criminal/drug trafficking influencer.
Greenland vote will be as legit as those Russian "special voting operations".

Staging being the correct word here - the most guys you saw there were local bums promised a free dinner. Note their MAGA merch? You think there is market for that on Greenland? The americans bought it with them and gave it to the local "supporters".

[Alerion_V.X3]

At least the USA has managed to turn many of its allies against it. And fellow "Weirdo"-Musk, who obviously no longer has his drug addiction under control, reinforces the image of an increasingly less trustworthy, imperialistic “ally”.

In the end, only Putin and his right-wing populist vassals in some countries are pleased and benefit from this and can't stop laughing in anticipation at all the highly idiotic own goals scored by their opponents.