Trump Presidency

[chew-ie]

And the reputation of M is going down, fast. I was e.g. overjoyed to hear that the Deutsche Museum [of technology] in Munich finally put down his image from the space exhibition. Common sense seems to be kicking in. Very slowly, but we'll get there. Hopefully in the US it doesn't ruin too many lifes until the system stabilizes.

[clakclak]

Trump and the Danish Prime Minister had a call over Greenland that apparently went utterly horribly and left European officials rather concerned. To quote one official: “He was very firm. It was a cold shower. Before, it was hard to take it seriously. But I do think it is serious, and potentially very dangerous.”

It seems more and more as if the acquisition of Greenland is one of the issues of great importance to Trump and not one he is willing to compromise on.


Source: https://www.ft.com/content/ace02a6f-330 ... b6646b60f6

[chew-ie]

It is quite baffling to be sure. If the US (not Trump, but the whole political system) let this happen this will have serious repercussion. We are talking about a sovereign state being taking over by a soon-former democracy (that label IMHO will be lost for the US in this process).

Letting him do some decrees for "funny stuff" is one thing - but circumventing everything and do international damage on such a scale is just ... can't find words for that.

[Chips]

As soon as he brings up Greenland, say no and put phone down / walk away.

It's 4 years. Let him bleat into his own echo chamber; only the US media / public (and even then, barely 50%) care.

I doubt most Americans can point to Greenland on a map, given the selective sample representation talk shows have shown of American's Geography.

[fiksal]

sometimes some black and white thinking is better than shades of grey

when will EU, Canada, and the rest understand, that under Trump, USA is no longer an ally? Start acting accordingly.

you can hold onto that thought for what happens after 4 years, but until then, how about some realty check

of course it only took mass graves for some EU states to notice that Putin is not a friend

[mr.WHO]

As soon as he brings up Greenland, say no and put phone down / walk away.

It's 4 years. Let him bleat into his own echo chamber; only the US media / public (and even then, barely 50%) care.

I doubt most Americans can point to Greenland on a map, given the selective sample representation talk shows have shown of American's Geography.

When I heard Trump talking about Canada and Greenland, the first thing that came to my mind was - you can't even decide what to do with Puerto Rico, yet you want to go for much bigger stuff (by population, by size and by economy).

Diplomatic and reputation dammage from this will be giant - good luck fighting China/Russia by parroting them.

[fiksal]

Puerto Rico is not of the right color, to them

[Chips]

Honestly, think some of it is diversionary. Keep talking random stuff, enhances the unpredictable moniker, upsets the usual tiptoe around diplomacy.
On top, throw out whacky ideas that sort of fit your delusions of grandeur and if the world doesn't collectively drop the "WTAF" response, then it's indicating there's some wiggle room for the action/desire.

[Warenwolf]

sometimes some black and white thinking is better than shades of grey

when will EU, Canada, and the rest understand, that under Trump, USA is no longer an ally? Start acting accordingly.

you can hold onto that thought for what happens after 4 years, but until then, how about some realty check

of course it only took mass graves for some EU states to notice that Putin is not a friend

Because performative politics is pointless. As that pseudo-nazi dane who told Trump to f off while few months before that he was praising Trump and his party's leader was guest at Maro-Lago (or whatever the name of that place is). I find it always entertaining to see that people who are so eager to victimize and demonize others find themselves flabbergasted when being the ones that are targeted.
Anyway to circle back to my criticism of performative politics - any chess move made by any EU politicians or institutions should not be advertised ahead.

As to your last two sentences - europeans leaders have practiced "kicking the can down the road leadership" for decades now. I find it funny that people in EU are worried about rise of populist parties in the world while politics in EU has been focused on populist politics (and special interests) for decades now. Literally you don't have politicians who had to take tough choices since... 80s? Perhaps 90s for some EE countries.
Hence they were unprepared for Putin and unprepared for Trump now. Dealing with Trump is a very simple affair - the guy is coward - but any of the permanent solutions carries high level of political risk (but is far cheaper and less riskier than doing nothing).

[burger1]

It looks like US has set it sights on changing UK politics now.

X, meta, etc... manipulating/removing data again/still.

It seems as though anti trump protests in the US are being under reported/hidden.

Mexico refuses to take illegal immigrants that aren't Mexicans. This will cost the US way more money and troubles.

Aid to Ukraine likely suspended. Trump meeting with Putin.

Trump strengthening ties with China.

There's been some talk on impeaching trump but not sure if it's been removed/censored.

Trump put freezes on new civil rights cases

https://apnews.com/article/civil-rights ... 82d4279c35

[fiksal]

As to your last two sentences - europeans leaders have practiced "kicking the can down the road leadership" for decades now. I find it funny that people in EU are worried about rise of populist parties in the world while politics in EU has been focused on populist politics (and special interests) for decades now. Literally you don't have politicians who had to take tough choices since... 80s? Perhaps 90s for some EE countries.
Hence they were unprepared for Putin and unprepared for Trump now. Dealing with Trump is a very simple affair - the guy is coward - but any of the permanent solutions carries high level of political risk (but is far cheaper and less riskier than doing nothing).

For all my complaining I am not sure I know how to fight this kind of populism or any kind.

US doesn't have anything to protect against. Do any or did any of the countries in EU?

Who is who in EU is a bit blurry to me, I wasn't aware this isn't a new issue there

[Incubi]

Trump will never have two thirds vote in his favor. The majority of the big scary stuff will never happen. I am more concerned about the two extremes turning to violence than anything he can actually accomplish. Musk on the other hand may be the bigger fish to fry in the long run.

Trump cannot run again and will not have the two thirds vote required for allowing a president to start running three terms. And even if he did, he would likely find himself facing Obama. And he can't win against him. According to Trumps own beliefs, Biden is senile and American isn't ready for a female president. This satirically translates to. Trump Beat two women and lost to a senile old man.

[matthewfarmery]

“President Donald Trump on Monday is expected to sign three executive orders that would reshape the military, including banning transgender service members from serving in the US armed forces, gutting the military’s Diversity, Equity and Inclusion programs, and reinstating service members with backpay who were discharged for refusing to get vaccinated from Covid-19,” CNN reports.

I think the third one is more worrying, It's sending a message, that its ok to disobey orders and we will give you a handshake and your back to work. Even though having covid shots is still a must. As for the others EO, probably will do some damage as well. But I see this as being the start, and it will only undermine US military on a whole. Trump doing more damage as time goes on.

[Observe]

“President Donald Trump on Monday is expected to sign three executive orders that would reshape the military, including banning transgender service members from serving in the US armed forces, gutting the military’s Diversity, Equity and Inclusion programs, and reinstating service members with backpay who were discharged for refusing to get vaccinated from Covid-19,” CNN reports.

I think the third one is more worrying, It's sending a message, that its ok to disobey orders and we will give you a handshake and your back to work. Even though having covid shots is still a must.

Covid shots are NOT a must. As of January 2025, Covid-19 vaccinations are no longer mandatory for U.S. military personnel. These particular executive orders address some of the key reasons that Trump won. The tide is turning. If so-called liberals are interested in being relevant, they need to reevaluate their positions on these subjects.

[jlehtone]

You mean that obeying Trump is not a must, and he will still give money and jobs to all good liberals (for what else are MAGA than liberals)?

[Vertigo 7]

“President Donald Trump on Monday is expected to sign three executive orders that would reshape the military, including banning transgender service members from serving in the US armed forces, gutting the military’s Diversity, Equity and Inclusion programs, and reinstating service members with backpay who were discharged for refusing to get vaccinated from Covid-19,” CNN reports.

I think the third one is more worrying, It's sending a message, that its ok to disobey orders and we will give you a handshake and your back to work. Even though having covid shots is still a must.

Covid shots are NOT a must. As of January 2025, Covid-19 vaccinations are no longer mandatory for U.S. military personnel. These particular executive orders address some of the key reasons that Trump won. The tide is turning. If so-called liberals are interested in being relevant, they need to reevaluate their positions on these subjects.

Relevant to whom? Supporters of fascism? no thanks. You can have that allllll to yourself.

[fiksal]

If so-called liberals are interested in being relevant, they need to reevaluate their positions on these subjects.

any liberal that is anti vaccine must lose their liberal card in my opinion.

They can be called conservatives if they like, that part is okay.

[clakclak]

And here comes the really scary stuff. If you pay attention to one thing let it be this. This is how democracies die, by poison in their lifeblood, the bureaucracy.

[fiksal]

Noted. That is indeed one of the mistakes Trump did in his attempt to overthrow the government last time, not everyone was loyal to him. You need people who are loyal to him not the Constitution.

Also, exactly how Putin's government works. Fanatical loyalty above all else

[chew-ie]

What's really fascinating here: "not loyal to me" translates for him to "they are wrong". It really never could occur to him that humans might not agree with his actions anymore and thus speak out against him.