Trump Presidency

[Observe]

So cruelty to your fellow human beings is acceptable so long as it stops the vaguely defined liberal agenda, that right? Individual freedoms only applies to the straight, white, "Christian", males? Everyone else, screw them, they're not people enough?

Democratic strategist James Carville: "We’ve got to be the most progressive self-righteous moralistic people in the world".

Carville made the statement Thursday, arguing that the party has become "self-righteous". He continues: "our party ought to apologize to the world for being so g--damn stupid."

Carville said that now the Democrats have an opportunity to reintroduce themselves to middle America and should take advantage of that.

It would be nice if the Democrats come to their senses before the next election. I'm hoping that they will change their tune, as I would prefer to return to the party that I've supported my whole life. I'm not holding my breath.

Alas, I expect Democrats will disown Carville the way they have disowned anyone who makes sense. They will continue alienating themselves from their base and everyone else who doesn't subscribe to the modern progressive absurdities that have hijacked the Democrat party.

[Mailo]

Didn't someone here say not too long ago that RFK Jr. wouldn't act rashly against vaccinations?
More than 30 grants for researching public mistrust of immunizations have been terminated. Also one grant for research using mRNA vaccines has been cut, and a list of all grants with this subject been requested by the White House, which probably means more cuts are to follow.
As someone whose wife suffered from cancer a few years ago, threatening research into a vaccine against at least some form of cancer is not very funny. We can only hope the researchers see the writing on the wall and move abroad ... then they might even get to meet their colleagues who can no longer travel to the US for scientific conferences, as a french scientist found out ... his crime worthy of detaining him and denying him entry into the US? He had some messages in a private chat on his phone where he was critical of the Orange one. The US denies this, and claims confidential material instead.. Unfortunately, this is only one out of quite a few cases in the past month where people entering the US were denied, with some being in holding cells for several weeks, so I'm more inclined to believe the French government here than the US one.
At work, we're had some business trips planned to the US ... these might not happen now, due to the incalculable risk to employees involved. I've also heard from multiple European universities that will no longer send people to the US.

I hope my American host mom can hang in there for a bit longer, I don't know if I could even travel to her funeral at the moment.

[matthewfarmery]

RFK is very much against vaccinations. So this doesn't surprise me in the least. This will clearly do a lot of damage. But again, America voted for this. How long before another serious outbreak of something? and the response will be, do nothing. RFK will not do anything, and Trump will clearly say the opposite to what the medical doctors will say.

It's just a matter of time, before things get worse. just clowns and fools running the show now.

[Observe]

RFK is very much against vaccinations.

RFK is very much against unsafe or untested vaccines.

He also questions the current vaccine schedule for children, arguing that perhaps they should be spread out more than the current CDC recommendations. He is in favor of more safety testing and regulatory oversight. He is concerned about conflicts of interest with the pharmaceutical industry.

None of that sounds bad to me.

As head of HHS, RFK is in a perfect position to review the various health agencies in the United States. Vaccines are just one part of the health equation. RFK is looking at banning some food additives, dyes, flavors, etc. Good news there too!

No one will disagree that we have a chronic health crisis in this country. For example, close to 80% of young Americans are considered ineligible for military service, due to health-related issues. Good luck if we get into a war with anyone!

[Mailo]

RFK is very much against vaccinations.

RFK is very much against unsafe or untested vaccines.

He also questions the current vaccine schedule for children, arguing that perhaps they should be spread out more than the current CDC recommendations. He is in favor of more safety testing and regulatory oversight. He is concerned about conflicts of interest with the pharmaceutical industry.

None of that sounds bad to me.

As head of HHS, RFK is in a perfect position to review the various health agencies in the United States. Vaccines are just one part of the health equation. RFK is looking at banning some food additives, dyes, flavors, etc. Good news there too!

No one will disagree that we have a chronic health crisis in this country. For example, close to 80% of young Americans are considered ineligible for military service, due to health-related issues. Good luck if we get into a war with anyone!

How does stopping research into new vaccines or into why even tested and safe ones are rejected by the populace fit into that theory?
The US has many issues contributing to poor health, vaccines and medicines in general aren't in the top ten of those though ... remember that all other countries worldwide use the exact same vaccines and medicines, yet do not have the health issues the US has.
You could start comparing access to healthy bread and vegetables between nations, as a start ... or why many foods common in the US are banned in Europe.
Also, access to preventive health care is much easier in other countries as well (read cheaper), catching issues well before they turn serious.

Edit: Also, being in favor of regulatory oversight for food or medicine isn't going to work out when you have a DOGE systematically dismantling said oversight as we speak, cheered on by people blind to the consequences.

[Warenwolf]

RFK is very much against vaccinations.

RFK is very much against unsafe or untested vaccines.

He also questions the current vaccine schedule for children, arguing that perhaps they should be spread out more than the current CDC recommendations. He is in favor of more safety testing and regulatory oversight. He is concerned about conflicts of interest with the pharmaceutical industry.

None of that sounds bad to me.

That is directly misleading at best....

Case in point:
Measles vaccines is a well known and well tested vaccine with well proven results all over the world. Currently USA has a small Measles outbreak, at this point of time, which should be easily dealt with by any semi-capable goverment. Too bad that man in charge is the one who was one of the causes of 80 kids dying in Samoa in their 2019 outbreak and has consistently warned against measles vaccines.

Source:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/rfk-j ... w-scrutiny

In any other country, with available infrastructure and knowhow in place, the situation would never occur in first place and/or would be under control after few days after initial outbreak.

PS: RFK has stated several times that vaccines are related to autism. I suggest to people to google who Andrew Wakefield is and what sort of vermin that sub-human is.

[Mailo]

Source:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/rfk-j ... w-scrutiny

Thanks for that link, I found another quote by JFK Jr. mentioned there to be ... extremely concerning, considering his current job ... a bit more detail in this link.

Relevant quote:

“COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese,” he added. “We don’t know whether it was deliberately targeted at that or not but there are papers out there that show the racial or ethnic differential of impact for that.”

After the video was made public, Kennedy posted on Twitter that his words were twisted and denied ever suggesting that COVID-19 was deliberately engineered to spare Jewish people. He asserted without evidence that there are bioweapons being developed to target certain ethnicities, and called for the Post’s article to be retracted.

WTF?

[clakclak]

Source:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/rfk-j ... w-scrutiny

Thanks for that link, I found another quote by JFK Jr. mentioned there to be ... extremely concerning, considering his current job ... a bit more detail in this link.

Relevant quote:

“COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese,” he added. “We don’t know whether it was deliberately targeted at that or not but there are papers out there that show the racial or ethnic differential of impact for that.”

After the video was made public, Kennedy posted on Twitter that his words were twisted and denied ever suggesting that COVID-19 was deliberately engineered to spare Jewish people. He asserted without evidence that there are bioweapons being developed to target certain ethnicities, and called for the Post’s article to be retracted.

WTF?

At this point we are turning in circles people. All of this begins to feel like a Deja-Vu.

[Vertigo 7]

So cruelty to your fellow human beings is acceptable so long as it stops the vaguely defined liberal agenda, that right? Individual freedoms only applies to the straight, white, "Christian", males? Everyone else, screw them, they're not people enough?

Democratic strategist James Carville: "We’ve got to be the most progressive self-righteous moralistic people in the world".

Carville made the statement Thursday, arguing that the party has become "self-righteous". He continues: "our party ought to apologize to the world for being so g--damn stupid."

Carville said that now the Democrats have an opportunity to reintroduce themselves to middle America and should take advantage of that.

It would be nice if the Democrats come to their senses before the next election. I'm hoping that they will change their tune, as I would prefer to return to the party that I've supported my whole life. I'm not holding my breath.

Alas, I expect Democrats will disown Carville the way they have disowned anyone who makes sense. They will continue alienating themselves from their base and everyone else who doesn't subscribe to the modern progressive absurdities that have hijacked the Democrat party.

Okay? "They're eating the dogs!" Donlad J Trump. And yet you still voted for the racist asshole knowing full well what that meant for these people that were doing no such thing, which is hilariously ironic considering your hero RFK is posed with a bbq'd dog carcass. Disgusting people.

[EGO_Aut]

As an outsider, I see the problem more in the two-party system in the US. You only have a choice between plague and cholera. As a voter, any statement from either party would bother me. I

I don't think it's a good idea to constantly point the finger at Observer and denounce him for his choice.

[clakclak]

As an outsider, I see the problem more in the two-party system in the US. You only have a choice between plague and cholera. As a voter, any statement from either party would bother me. I

I don't think it's a good idea to constantly point the finger at Observer and denounce him for his choice.

The two party system is a consequence of the American voting system, which can never be reformed because both major parties would loose power as a consequence and thus would never agree to it. I do not disagree with you, but I am afraid America is, for better or worse, stuck with the system it has.

[Vertigo 7]

A 2 party system has nothing to do with someone's choice to back a known racist, rapist, and convict. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to understand that someone who has displayed such low regard for human life will be devastating to the lives and wellbeing of millions or more when given the power and opportunity to do so. And then to claim that it's somehow better that what the democrats want is disingenuous at best. And I'd bet a month's pay they're lilly white enough to not have to worry about ICE kicking down their door and labeling them a terrorist and shipping them off to Venezuela without trial.

[Observe]

Close to 300,000 people die in the United States every year, due to obesity related illnesses. During covid, a CDC study showed that over 50% of adults hospitalized with covid, were obese.

Instead of worrying about someone taking away vaccines, which isn't going to happen, it might be more productive to be concerned about the health crises that faces our country each and every day. Pandemics come and go. Obesity and other conditions relating to unhealthy diet and lifestyle are the real killer.

But no, let's instead endlessly obsess about dubiously effective vaccines, so that we don't have to focus on any of the real problems. Once again, we are facing a health crisis, and we are not going to vaccine our way out of it.

[Chips]

But no, let's instead endlessly obsess about dubiously effective vaccines, so that we don't have to focus on any of the real problems. Once again, we are facing a health crisis, and we are not going to vaccine our way out of it.

Just to point out, is this dubiously effective vaccines in your opinion, or in scientific studies? Any chance of studies and specifics around which are not effective that you're aware of? Any vaccines you are aware of being effective?

There's entirely the possibility to worry about more than one thing at a time; e.g. worry about obesity *and* worry about... erm, ineffective vaccines? They're not mutually exclusive. RJK could campaign and champion about obesity and additives in food right now. Just didn't find anything (quick search only) about RJK and what's currently being done about obesity epidemic in the US.

[clakclak]

A 2 party system has nothing to do with someone's choice to back a known racist, rapist, and convict. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to understand that someone who has displayed such low regard for human life will be devastating to the lives and wellbeing of millions or more when given the power and opportunity to do so. And then to claim that it's somehow better that what the democrats want is disingenuous at best. And I'd bet a month's pay they're lilly white enough to not have to worry about ICE kicking down their door and labeling them a terrorist and shipping them off to Venezuela without trial.

You are right when you say that a 2 party system is not an excuse to vote Donald Trump. You are also correct in stating that by pretty much any objective measurable metric, America and the American people would be better served by the democrats. Them not wanting to dismantle the country alone makes that clear, leaving aside all the other obvious glaring issues.

However, the issues is that a two party system furthers political apathy. Only 63% of people who could vote did vote in America in 2024. Just to give you something to compare that to, in the 2025 German election 82% of people who could did vote. (We still ended up with 20% voting for a party that by now is clearly fascist, but that is besides the point right now.)

If you are a left leaning person in America there is no party for you. If you are a moderate conservative person there is no party for you. There is only a far right Christian nationalist party and a socially center left and economically center right leaning neo liberal party. All other parties are so irrelevant that they will never hold any power. If you, for whatever reason, don’t want Christian nationalists or neo-liberals to rule, for example because you are a leftist, you are out of options. Would I vote for the democrats over the republicans if I were an American citizen? Sure. But what good is a vote for the Democrats if people like Chuck Schumer end up voting with the republicans anyway? Honestly it sometimes feels as if America does not even really have two parties, but one political party and then a second party playing out some public theater to appease the masses while in the end always making sure that whatever the republicans want gets passed.

And it works as the public seems to be happy with the theater. There have been more extreme demonstrations in the city I have been living in for some years now over nonsense like the police trying to evict people from a squatted house (pictured here) than there are currently in America when the government is being dismantled.

[Observe]

Just to point out, is this dubiously effective vaccines in your opinion, or in scientific studies? Any chance of studies and specifics around which are not effective that you're aware of? Any vaccines you are aware of being effective?

Some vaccines confer immunity, others don't. COVID vaccines don't make people immune from infection or prevent them from transmitting the virus to other people. I'm not saying those vaccines are completely ineffective, just "dubiously effective". Evidence does point to them tending to reduce likelihood of infection, as well as reducing the intensity of sickness. So that is a good thing. On the other hand, we have the measles vaccine, which IS effective, DOES confer immunity and DOES prevent infection.

Honestly it sometimes feels as if America does not even really have two parties, but one political party and then a second party playing out some public theater to appease the masses while in the end always making sure that whatever the republicans want gets passed.

You are right. The two parties are different sides of the same shit-metal coin. This is the coin that committed genocide on Native Americans not very long ago at all. The same coin that imported slaves and then hated those slaves for having the audacity to think of themselves as human. Again, not very long ago at all. Differences between Democrats and Republicans are barely microphone deep. Extreme left and extreme right are cut from the exact same cloth. They only wear different headsets.

[esd]

They have the Bestest Minds in their Cabinet. Truly. I mean they wouldn't invite a renowned journalist into a secure Top Secret chat about bombing Yemen, featuring none other than the Vice President himself, right?

Far too bigly clever, right... right..?

Oh what a compete and utter [rude word]storm.

[matthewfarmery]

And no one is falling on their swords and claiming responsibility. IF this had happened under a dem president, the outrage would have been huge, demands for an investigation, demands for people to step down, etc. But this is just another day in the office. Just another security breach that can be swept under the carpet,

[fiksal]

here's how RFK is not pro healthy people

not once I heard talk about access to medicine. People in US only go to a doctor when they can afford it, and it's not always.

people in US instead of doctors turn to vitamins, that are not all that controlled, that do nothing mostly, and take up a third of pharmacy space.

it may surprise you what takes the other third of the space, in an actual, real, American pharmacy - homeopathy

that's what people use to be "healthy"

few of many issues. Did RFK mention those? No, but he did say vaccines may cause autism. Can't walk away from that, it's been recorded

[clakclak]

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Honestly it sometimes feels as if America does not even really have two parties, but one political party and then a second party playing out some public theater to appease the masses while in the end always making sure that whatever the republicans want gets passed.

You are right. The two parties are different sides of the same shit-metal coin. This is the coin that committed genocide on Native Americans not very long ago at all. The same coin that imported slaves and then hated those slaves for having the audacity to think of themselves as human. Again, not very long ago at all. Differences between Democrats and Republicans are barely microphone deep. Extreme left and extreme right are cut from the exact same cloth. They only wear different headsets.

That is not what I said and the American democrats are also not the extreme left. The are not even left. They are socially left leaning and economically right leaning, making them a centrist party. Left wing parties have very different aims from the Democrats. An example: The Democrats give Billionaires a plattform. Meanwhile the left party in Germany recently published a binding resolution with the headline: "There should be no billionaires!" Outlining a five step plan how to end the existance of billionaire's once and for all. The only time the current iteration of Germany's left party would ever trod out a billionaire to a press conference would be to guillotine him (not really, they are not extremist enough for that, but you will not see them with a billionaire anywhere near the podium).

As for the American genocide, that is a far more complex topic and simply blaming it on the two current american parties, while excluding the driving factor of European colonialism and imperialism in both the genocide and slave trade does an injustice to the victims of the genocide and let's European powers of the hook for their share of responsibility in the devestation cause throughtout that period.