[MOD] [TC/AP] X3 Rebalance Mod (XRM) - Total conversion - v1.30d (02.12.13)

Dinoff · Post by **Dinoff** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 05:48

i find myself having trouble on the install for ap. i cant seem to get the ships to show up. i get the message confirming its installed but no ships

Nick 031287 · Post by **Nick 031287** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 05:53

dont forget you have to install all mods in the Addon folder thats where AP stuff is
otherwise you're just installing into TC

incarnyte · Post by **incarnyte** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 05:54

Yeah its easy to change it back. Need to mod it in TWareT.txt
Presently I am considering to do exactly the same. Or maybe at least change it to L.

In the above I was told I could change the size of jumpdrives back to thier original size by changing the TWareT.txt file. The only thing i see is a TWareT.pck file. Need a little help please.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 05:55

Dinoff wrote:i find myself having trouble on the install for ap. i cant seem to get the ships to show up. i get the message confirming its installed but no ships

And dont just name the files 3 and 4. You need to add the 0 to it, i.e, 03.cat 04.cat.

Nick 031287 · Post by **Nick 031287** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 05:58

can someone please help me???? im sooo confused
im trying to put all the addons in and im running it on X3AP

please help!!!!!!! i cant stand this complication any longer, PM me please,

morikaane · Post by **morikaane** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 05:58

Grimshad wrote:I don't understand, how could IR be too much and PG be good? They are both essentially the same thing, the difference is that IR takes care of all the races, and PG takes care of just the pirates.

Well, given what you've said, it's probably not worth using. I haven't used PG myself so I didn't want to say yes or no.

Grimshad wrote:I've noticed there is a lot of Kha'ak and Xenon attacks on Argon sectors, but they are pretty small. Will attacks like this lead to a sector take over? can races capture sectors in XRM?

No. There are no sector take overs. XRM doesn't do that.

Grimshad wrote:I claimed a Kha'ak Fighter and as soon as I did 3 Argon fighters turns red and ran after it to destroy it. I'm guessing the races will destroy Kha'ak ships no matter who owns them?

I claimed one of the random vanilla derelict Khaak Fighters and I had no issues. However, it might be worth resetting its friend / foe settings next time you capture something that's Khaak. It might make a difference... I'm not sure what went wrong there.

M.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 05:59

Nick 031287 wrote:can someone please help me???? im sooo confused
im trying to put all the addons in and im running it on X3AP

please help!!!!!!! i cant stand this complication any longer, PM me please,

Easy now. Lets walk through this.

First off whats the problem.....

Nick 031287 · Post by **Nick 031287** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:01

joelR wrote:
Nick 031287 wrote:can someone please help me???? im sooo confused
im trying to put all the addons in and im running it on X3AP

please help!!!!!!! i cant stand this complication any longer, PM me please,
Easy now. Lets walk through this.

First off whats the problem.....

the fact that they didnt Intergrate addons into the mod?

and that they didnt link the actuall Mod files with the MARs Data file and the same with Codea, i dont know what im doing the instructions dont mean anything to me!!

morikaane · Post by **morikaane** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:03

Dinoff wrote:i find myself having trouble on the install for ap. i cant seem to get the ships to show up. i get the message confirming its installed but no ships

Sounds like you didn't install it correctly, or you have installed something that conflicts. Try installing the mod again from a fresh install (or restore your vanilla backup, which saves time) and just try installing XRM. Once you get that working, then add in the mods you want to use.

Also, might help if you do a manual install but make sure that you read the instructions very carefully in the first few posts of this thread.

M.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:03

Nick 031287 wrote:
joelR wrote:
Nick 031287 wrote:can someone please help me???? im sooo confused
im trying to put all the addons in and im running it on X3AP

please help!!!!!!! i cant stand this complication any longer, PM me please,
Easy now. Lets walk through this.

First off whats the problem.....
the fact that they didnt Intergrate addons into the mod?

and that they didnt link the actuall Mod files with the MARs Data file and the same with Codea, i dont know what im doing the instructions dont mean anything to me!!

You arent making any sense!

What do you mean by "integrate addons into the mod"?

Do you mean recommended scripts/mods?

Nick 031287 · Post by **Nick 031287** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:05

you know the Addons that they recomend to go with XRM?

i dont understand why they didnt just Intergrate it into XRM mod its self.....

and im struggling triyng to work out how to set this all up an i dont wanna risk launching with the possibility of screwing up the installations of the addons

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:09

Nick 031287 wrote:you know the Addons that they recomend to go with XRM?

i dont understand why they didnt just Intergrate it into XRM mod its self.....

and im struggling triyng to work out how to set this all up an i dont wanna risk launching with the possibility of screwing up the installations of the addons

Its not as hard as youre making it really. Just take it step by step. Dont worry about what WASNT done and just work with what is.

1: Install XRM by unzipping it into the addon folder (Where AP is) and rename them to 03 and 04.

Then download the "addons" you want from here.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=216690

Thats it really. The rest is cake.

If you cant figure that out then just ask for an explanation. You only struggle because you arent asking for specific help.

Grimshad · Post by **Grimshad** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:11

morikaane wrote:
Grimshad wrote:I don't understand, how could IR be too much and PG be good? They are both essentially the same thing, the difference is that IR takes care of all the races, and PG takes care of just the pirates.
Well, given what you've said, it's probably not worth using. I haven't used PG myself so I didn't want to say yes or no.

Grimshad wrote:I've noticed there is a lot of Kha'ak and Xenon attacks on Argon sectors, but they are pretty small. Will attacks like this lead to a sector take over? can races capture sectors in XRM?
No. There are no sector take overs. XRM doesn't do that.

Grimshad wrote:I claimed a Kha'ak Fighter and as soon as I did 3 Argon fighters turns red and ran after it to destroy it. I'm guessing the races will destroy Kha'ak ships no matter who owns them?
I claimed one of the random vanilla derelict Khaak Fighters and I had no issues. However, it might be worth resetting its friend / foe settings next time you capture something that's Khaak. It might make a difference... I'm not sure what went wrong there.

M.

Tried it again. claimed another Kha'ak Fighters in another sector and the same thing happened. 3 fighters in the sector instantly turned red, ran over, killed the ship and then turned back to blue on the sector map. Still red in the game overlay, but they don't attack me, they just wanted to kill the Kha'ak ship. The ships friend/foe settings were correct.

For the Improved Races/Pirate Guild thing. The whole reason I have always used them is because I wanted to know I was fighting for something. My end goal in the game is to capture at least a decent size portion of the universe. It's one thing to capture it, it's a completely different thing to keep it when your enemies are trying to fight for it back. It turns the universe into a dynamic and living world that is completely different every time you play.

The reason I got XRM is because I wanted more ships/stations/weapons choice in the game.

I wonder is there a way to just get the ships/stations/weapons and play with my prefered setup with IR and PG?

Nick 031287 · Post by **Nick 031287** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:17

joelR wrote:
Nick 031287 wrote:you know the Addons that they recomend to go with XRM?

i dont understand why they didnt just Intergrate it into XRM mod its self.....

and im struggling triyng to work out how to set this all up an i dont wanna risk launching with the possibility of screwing up the installations of the addons
Its not as hard as youre making it really. Just take it step by step. Dont worry about what WASNT done and just work with what is.

1: Install XRM by unzipping it into the addon folder (Where AP is) and rename them to 03 and 04.

Then download the "addons" you want from here.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=216690

Thats it really. The rest is cake.

If you cant figure that out then just ask for an explanation. You only struggle because you arent asking for specific help.

well its just the CODEA and the MARs things thats complicating to me, i dont even know what version i downloaded i assume its the latest but it dont say. i not sure where to get CODEA tho. its stupid they didnt link the damn mods with the Data files to fit with XRM

morikaane · Post by **morikaane** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:28

Grimshad wrote:Tried it again. claimed another Kha'ak Fighters in another sector and the same thing happened. 3 fighters in the sector instantly turned red, ran over, killed the ship and then turned back to blue on the sector map. Still red in the game overlay, but they don't attack me, they just wanted to kill the Kha'ak ship. The ships friend/foe settings were correct.

Weird. I have no idea what would cause that. You could try using the comm. channel whilst in the ship and apologise for the weapons fire....... that'd probably fix it.

Other than that... Paul might have to look into it.

Grimshad wrote:For the Improved Races/Pirate Guild thing. The whole reason I have always used them is because I wanted to know I was fighting for something. My end goal in the game is to capture at least a decent size portion of the universe. It's one thing to capture it, it's a completely different thing to keep it when your enemies are trying to fight for it back. It turns the universe into a dynamic and living world that is completely different every time you play.

Yeah, I understand totally where you're coming from. It's just the aggressive nature of the XRM jobs that prevent people from using IR and the like without things getting crazy. Maybe Paul will eventually create a non-aggressive jobs file so mods like IR can take that part over.

However, toning down the settings of PG or IR might make it work a little less crazy with XRM but that will require you to tinker around with it a bit.

Nick 031287 wrote:well its just the CODEA and the MARs things thats complicating to me, i dont even know what version i downloaded i assume its the latest but it dont say. i not sure where to get CODEA tho. its stupid they didnt link the damn mods with the Data files to fit with XRM

Well...... don't worry about them. Never really liked MARS or CODEA myself.

M.

EDIT: Note to self don't delete parts of your response by accident.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:32

Nick 031287 wrote:
joelR wrote:
Nick 031287 wrote:you know the Addons that they recomend to go with XRM?

i dont understand why they didnt just Intergrate it into XRM mod its self.....

and im struggling triyng to work out how to set this all up an i dont wanna risk launching with the possibility of screwing up the installations of the addons
Its not as hard as youre making it really. Just take it step by step. Dont worry about what WASNT done and just work with what is.

1: Install XRM by unzipping it into the addon folder (Where AP is) and rename them to 03 and 04.

Then download the "addons" you want from here.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=216690

Thats it really. The rest is cake.

If you cant figure that out then just ask for an explanation. You only struggle because you arent asking for specific help.
well its just the CODEA and the MARs things thats complicating to me, i dont even know what version i downloaded i assume its the latest but it dont say. i not sure where to get CODEA tho. its stupid they didnt link the damn mods with the Data files to fit with XRM

I think your attitude towards how it isnt is just going to frustrate you. I assume you know how to use the internet enough to get the answers you need. If you want help installing XRM i will be happy to help. Youll have to work with a therapist to work out your anger issues with the way paul organized XRM though

Valenzio · Post by **Valenzio** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:32

Nick 031287 wrote:im officially fed up having to go through a MILLION addons an crap, why cant they just integrate everything????? i dont understand. they didnt even link mars mod with the Data file what gives??

why make addons? just put it all together please!!! i dont do very well with this.

use the plugin manager

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=265915

this works wonders with addons I think or for any other mod!

if you want to know if a addon is compatible with this mod look on first page and if it isnt there ask the maker of the addon.... Paul wouldn't know cause he didn't make the addon.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:34

@grimshad

IR and PG work just fine with XRM. It just might get a little crazy. But you clearly have a grasp of how IR and PG work so you can just tone them both down.

morikaane · Post by **morikaane** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:34

joelR wrote:Youll have to work with a therapist to work out your anger issues with the way paul organized XRM though

Ouch.

But seriously, google is your friend. Just add x3tc to the front of the mod name in the search box.

M.

Grimshad · Post by **Grimshad** » Sun, 22. Jan 12, 06:37

morikaane wrote: Yeah, I understand totally where you're coming from. It's just the aggressive nature of the XRM jobs that prevent people from using IR and the like without things getting crazy. Maybe Paul will eventually create a non-aggressive jobs file so mods like IR can take that part over.
M.

Which part is the jobs file located? I think what i'm going to do is i'll just remove the XRM jobs completely, add back my NO Civilian jobs. Then use IR and PG