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Chips wrote:
BugMeister wrote:- with the price/cost of fuel plummeting as it has recently, why
are we not seeing large reductions in Taxi and Bus fares.. :?
... because the price of fuel isn't the major cost for Taxi's or Buses? Nor is the production cost of oil the major defining factor in the price of fuel at the pump (for us). Nor is the cost of fuel a hugely defining factor in the cost of a flight?
Except: When I first get here, bus fare was 1.10$, now it's 2.25$ through several increase over the year. And every single time raising fuel cost was cited as the main reason. Same thing for air fare. , this came straight from the managers/directors/ CEO/chairmans who run these services. I don't care how many article or analysis they can have explaining why cost not going down despite oil is plummeting.

Either they lied back then to jack up the price, or lieing now so they don't have to lower the price, make no difference.
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Mightysword wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/30/politics/ ... index.html

All I can say is ... holy shit. Always think the dude is a bit on the crazy side but this? I know it can't be helped you get spammed by politician on election day ... but this is scam. I wonder if people can make a lawsuit out of this, (and if they can I hope they will).

He already tries to blackmail before he becomes the prez :shock:
I think that's not just a scam, that's flat out electoral fraud.
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Chips wrote:
BugMeister wrote:- with the price/cost of fuel plummeting as it has recently, why
are we not seeing large reductions in Taxi and Bus fares.. :?
... because the price of fuel isn't the major cost for Taxi's or Buses? Nor is the production cost of oil the major defining factor in the price of fuel at the pump (for us). Nor is the cost of fuel a hugely defining factor in the cost of a flight?

http://www.flightdeckfriend.com/#!how-m ... burn/c1a7i

Unsure if people are just taking the piss or not. A bus to buy costs £200,000-£500,000 and has operating, staffing and more costs on top. A car for taxi - £20,000? An passenger jet costs up to £120,000,000 to buy?

Fuel costs (at the pump to us) is mainly tax, hence why it's not dropped significantly compared to the price per barrel.

Just think how much a taxi costs to go distance x, and how much it costs in a car to drive said distance. The two have never tallied, so why do you think the prices should noticeably change all of a sudden? They won't.

Same for flights...

History of jet fuel cost:
http://www.iata.org/publications/econom ... lysis.aspx

That'd translate into £14 reduction in transatlantic flight price per passenger on a full plane. How many flights are 100% full, how many aren't, and what effect does that have on fuel use and who absorbs those costs?

What exactly did you imagine it should be?
- a lot lower..!! :lol:
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A lesson by Total War on how to deal with those over analytical facebook commenters:

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Mightysword wrote:
Chips wrote:
BugMeister wrote:- with the price/cost of fuel plummeting as it has recently, why
are we not seeing large reductions in Taxi and Bus fares.. :?
... because the price of fuel isn't the major cost for Taxi's or Buses? Nor is the production cost of oil the major defining factor in the price of fuel at the pump (for us). Nor is the cost of fuel a hugely defining factor in the cost of a flight?
Except: When I first get here, bus fare was 1.10$, now it's 2.25$ through several increase over the year. And every single time raising fuel cost was cited as the main reason. Same thing for air fare. , this came straight from the managers/directors/ CEO/chairmans who run these services. I don't care how many article or analysis they can have explaining why cost not going down despite oil is plummeting.

Either they lied back then to jack up the price, or lieing now so they don't have to lower the price, make no difference.
Did the cost of oil triple or quadruple over that time? If not, then you have your answer - they didn't put the price up due to fuel costs ;)

Imagine it - if the 1.10$ was entire fuel cost, then the bus was free, the driver costs are free, maintenance costs are free, storage is free, advertising is free, holiday/sick pay, taxes, pension contributions, profit taxes... all zero.

Then if oil doubled perhaps the ticket price would double.
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Chips wrote: Did the cost of oil triple or quadruple over that time? If not, then you have your answer - they didn't put the price up due to fuel costs ;)

Imagine it - if the 1.10$ was entire fuel cost, then the bus was free, the driver costs are free, maintenance costs are free, storage is free, advertising is free, holiday/sick pay, taxes, pension contributions, profit taxes... all zero.

Then if oil doubled perhaps the ticket price would double.
Except that's exactly what happens. I arrived in the U.S in the early 2000, when crude was around 50$/barrel, so as oil climbed up, so did the fair. 1.25, 1.50, 1.75, 2.10. And when oil peak at around 100$ per barrel, the fare is at 2.20$. So, unless my math is wrong, 50$->100$, and 1.10$->2.20$ is a very nicely correlate double ratio, no?

And you seem to be entirely missing the point, it doesn't matter if you are correct (which not saying you actually are, because you're not) it doesn't change the fact that oil price was cited as the reason for price hike not by ME, but by the very people who run the service. So like I said, either they were lying then, or they are lying now, same difference.


And you also are missing another very important point, oil price effect the economy in far more way than just fuel price, but that's not really the point.
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Just a note: There is no transportation industry in the U.S. that doesn't cite "fuel costs" as the primary influence for price increases... none. Everything from common freight to passenger services insists that price increases are caused by rising fuel costs. It doesn't matter if their actual fuel costs, once all the numbers are crunched, have risen or not.

However, it is worth noting that taxes imposed upon fuels are a significant cost and these taxes can differ according to "use." A diesel fuel/kero mix rated for "fuel oil" will have different taxes imposed upon it than one rated for vehicle fuel, even thought the "ratings" are basically insignificant. In order to ensure that the different taxes have been paid by the distributor, the fuels are dyed different colors...
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Not news, but I seen this photo and it just made me so sad, I had to share it.

http://stash-magazine.com/wp-content/up ... -02-26.jpg


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felter wrote:Not news, but I seen this photo and it just made me so sad, I had to share it....
That's a leaked screenshot for the upcoming "Call of Duty: Moral Vacuum" DLC, right?
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Morkonan wrote:
felter wrote:Not news, but I seen this photo and it just made me so sad, I had to share it....
That's a leaked screenshot for the upcoming "Call of Duty: Moral Vacuum" DLC, right?
I have no idea where the picture originates from, but it's kids with guns that are made to kill, and that makes me sad. Kids should not be holding things like that, real or fictional, it's just wrong.
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Any context for that picture?
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clakclak wrote:Any context for that picture?
After some quick sleuthing, I found this article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -city.html
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it's still sad. :cry:
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felter wrote:it's still sad. :cry:
Very.

I don't know the "DailyMail" very well, so I can't say how suspect the article is. I found some references to Azerbaijan in my brief search, but I couldn't make much of them. A closer look at the uniform by those familiar with modern Russian dress would be a good idea.

Still, if it's not simply a staged pic, it's remarkably sad. But, I'd also say that with rising nationalism and various countries seeming to "need" some sort of military-inspired conflict situation in order to, perhaps, give their people something to focus their angst against, it's not a surprising state of affairs.
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Think The Sun without the Boobies on page 3.

The Mail is not renown for its extensive fact checking. It's like the "Daily Prophet" from the Harry Potter series in that it might occasionally stumble across the truth by accident but seldom by design.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the character of Rita Skeeter and the nonsense she penned wasn't heavily influenced by the Daily Mail.
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brucewarren wrote: The Mail is not renown for its extensive fact checking.
Hence its frequent nickname "The Daily Fail". I don't doubt that the picture is genuine, mind you, but it's uncertain if the context that paper has put on it is accurate.
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As well as the intrinsic awfulness of kids carrying guns, there's also the sick feeling in the pit of the stomach. These kids have not been given any instruction on firearm discipline, and the guns are pointing every which way. Obviously they won't be loaded, but it still gives me the creeps.
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So I am gonna play devils advocate here for a moment, where is the difference between the picture above and this one:

https://7068-presscdn-0-62-pagely.netdn ... id-gun.jpg


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clakclak wrote:So I am gonna play devils advocate here for a moment, where is the difference between the picture above and this one:

https://7068-presscdn-0-62-pagely.netdn ... id-gun.jpg


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Of course, if they're American and are pictured with a gun then they are being taught and are supervised in a safe environment by responsible gun owners and trained operators.

Anywhere else, and it's a sad sight to see children with weapons, no matter what the circumstances are. Even if the weapons are disabled and aren't being fired.

Double standards? Where?
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Gnomoria 1.0 released, now out of Early Access dev/beta phase: http://store.steampowered.com/app/224500/

I was going to buy this today, anyway, and let it be my first early access title purchased, ever... Oh well, buying anyway. :)

(Also downloaded D.F., but Gnomoria's U.I. doesn't require me to tie my brain in knots. Will play DF for the "story" value, though, and Gnomoria for the "gaming" value.)

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