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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2024

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Going by the numbers it's very likely Trump will win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT5Aqj2dUKA

Florida's results were in pretty fast.

Seems dodgy.
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Gavrushka wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 06:16 Just watched a little news, and really wish I hadn't. Am I reading the results to date wrong, or does it look like he's likely to win... Damn, I'd head off to Mars, but that's now allied with him too.
I'm seeing the same thing. 230 for Trump, 210 for Harris ... and it looks like he is in the lead in so many of the states where votes are still being tallied that I think he is going to win.

If he wins, I think he is going to be a lot more reckless this time. 4 years of Trump and 20 to 30 years of repairing the damage he will do.

EDIT: 246 to 210 ... damn it
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Gavrushka wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 06:16 ... Damn, I'd head off to Mars, but that's now allied with him too.
Funny thing is that I was 50:50 on Harris and Trump, but out of all things, Musk made me lean to Harris.

Waking up to results...damn.
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The chosen one only needs a victory over Russia, although that was actually taken by the Ukraine war, and over China. The latter could happen with Taiwan or with economic sanctions. Meanwhile, Israel is allowed to occupy neighboring countries and drive the Palestinians into the sea. EU has to do what he says, buiseness as usual....what a wonderful world. Of course, the emperor's heir will be his son.
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Well what to make of that? Hard to say. Ukraine is pretty done for and altough I rarely touch the conflict in the middle east, I think it is fair to say that the people who did not vote for Harris because they felt it was not compatible with their support for Palestine will have a rather rude awakening. Woman will also have a bad time, Trans people are done for and I am curious if this result will embolden the Supreme court to tackle the two next big things they have been eying up and commenting on in the past: gay and interracial marriage.

Edit: Interesting but overly unimportant, will he actually end up banning violent video games?
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"lmao"

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The world has got a whole lot colder. Damn america, how could you be so bloody foolish!!! :( :( :( :(

Makes me wish I don't get out of bed anymore.
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matthewfarmery wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 09:03 The world has got a whole lot colder.
I'd say it's about to get a lot hotter. Happy war times are coming. While [half of the] americans think they won anything their justice system gets dismanteled even further and Russia and China go on a "shopping spree".
matthewfarmery wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 09:03 Damn america, how could you be so bloody foolish!!! :( :( :( :(
Indeed. Seems the world hasn't suffered enough yet. :(
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Looks like Trump will win.

I don't blame Biden for this loss, or Harris. I think Harris ran the best campaign she could. No, this Trump victory is on the people of America.

Now, when we get to see the effects of voting in a liar, fraud, bully, and all around charlatan over the next 4 years, we will have nobody to blame but ourselves. We will be fully deserving of the consequences of our poor judgement.

Okay Europe, it really is time to step up your support for Ukraine, because I doubt Trump is going to provide Ukraine with the kind of support they need to win. You want to prevent a new Soviet Union on your doorstep? Then wake up.
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Falcrack wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 11:01 […]

Okay Europe, it really is time to step up your support for Ukraine, because I doubt Trump is going to provide Ukraine with the kind of support they need to win. You want to prevent a new Soviet Union on your doorstep? Then wake up.
Nah, sorry best we can do is follow suit and also vote in Russian puppets. /s

But to be honest I had a lot more hope for the elections in America than for those in my home country next year.
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The thing is, I keep reading about how people have been "fooled" into voting for Trump.

Have they though? It's not like he's an unknown... they've experienced his leadership for a term as President previously. They've seen epic amounts of coverage in the media about his, erm, practices.

The majority *want* Trump more than they wanted either the democrats, or Harris. Who's fault is it that Trump's therefore in, really?
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here we go!

I hope ya all armed in US. Let's see what the next 4 years of exercise in fascism looks like. Last ones were certainly eventful
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Chips wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 12:44 The thing is, I keep reading about how people have been "fooled" into voting for Trump.

Have they though? It's not like he's an unknown... they've experienced his leadership for a term as President previously. They've seen epic amounts of coverage in the media about his, erm, practices.

The majority *want* Trump more than they wanted either the democrats, or Harris. Who's fault is it that Trump's therefore in, really?
Here's the thing tho. The majority of the people that voted for that clown listen to him and Faux News, both known by any reasonable people to be nothing but BS spewing factories. These aren't reasonable people. They don't fact check, they don't question what they're told. They accept it on face value because it's what they want to hear.

Case in point, the whole nonsense about Haitians in Springfield, OH eating people's pets. That whole thing started as some idiots facebook post, JD Vance saw it and started claiming it as fact and the Orange one started repeating it. The Republican governor of Ohio said it's BS, stop claiming it. The mayor and other officials of Springfield all said it was BS. But they kept saying it anyway and their sycophants lapped it up (recall the bomb threats). JD Vance even admitted in an interview that it was BS but that didn't change anything because that interview was on CNN, not Faux News.

To say they're fooled into voting for him, I'd say that's fair, because they are fools, and that's the nicest thing that can be said about them.
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Well no more defending Americans, it's official, they are as dumb as ****. I mean seriously, how could anyone vote for Trump is beyond me, the guy is going to kill countless people all over the world for his own pleasure. I suppose it's time to start getting ready for war because that's where we are now heading, and the dumb Americans will be the cause of it. We thought it was bad the first time, I predict the deaths from covid will look like a rain drop in an ocean. Thanks, America.
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Vertigo 7 wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 13:33 But they kept saying it anyway and their sycophants lapped it up (recall the bomb threats). JD Vance even admitted in an interview that it was BS but that didn't change anything because that interview was on CNN, not Faux News.

To say they're fooled into voting for him, I'd say that's fair, because they are fools, and that's the nicest thing that can be said about them.
But that's how many hoax bomb threats? *looks at voting figures* were there really 71,000,000 people "lapping it up"? Do you think 71,000,000 Republican voters (this time) believed it? At all?
Do you think that made anyone vote?

e.g. for example, this guy may well have just hit the nail on the head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAyIAJCWVxA

We're assuming they consume and partake in media, full stop. We think all the negative news that *we* read and consume and go "OMG what on earth..." - they don't listen to it, don't care about it, it's not important - or worse, aren't remotely aware of it.

What's important to them is what their pockets show... and research appeared to show that the presidential debates historically (on TV) made no discernible impact upon the actual vote, implying they're not really doing anything. So it's not what they're basing their votes upon.

The democrats failed to identify what their voting public (or *more* of their voting public) really cared about. All sorts of ideological ideas are talked about, which is great... but that's not what the voters they *needed* to vote for them cared about.

Which is themselves; their wallet - and who damages it. Whether that's their perception of Govt or immigrants.
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felter wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 13:54 Well no more defending Americans, it's official, they are as dumb as ****.
You mean: not smarter than the rest of us.
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The next problem is, how will his businesses be ran? no doubt Trump will continue to have full access to them. His bitcoin and social media platforms will go through the roof and will make him a billionaire many times over. He will have the money to send attack dogs to do his bidding. The FBI will change and he will have exclusive control. I pity anyone who is in their sights.

My problem is, The GOP planned this, and Musk. How much of their trickery and treachery counts to Trump winning? How many will be fake votes like last time? how many will have voted twice and many many will not even be counted but an auto win for Trump? The house republicans set this in motion, so under a GOP emperor, nothing will get seen or recounted. No challenge unless its democrat controlled. The world has taken a very dark path, While I said previously that WW3 is possible, well, that possible will be extremely likely. Conflict with Russia will only intensify and the Middle East will also become a bloody blood bath. I knew this will come, now that Doom's Day Clock is only a few seconds to midnight. May mercy be on our souls.

I rather not see this, But now, sadly it very likely going to happen. :cry:
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I'm thinking that his assassination attempts could have taken a key part in getting him to power? and the truth will never be known. The question then becomes is, will Trunp take another bullet and Vance takes over? (I know, but lets try and discus this with a pinch of salt, please) But I am starting to suspect this was also planned, and a change of leader might be on the cards. He gets in, but doesn't last long. then the 25th amendment kicks in. and we have a Trump 2.0. Again, This is a touchy subject, don't want to break any rules, but this is something I had a bad feeling about. So please, lets be careful here. Sorry mods, but this is a possible option. And for the GOP to have a new emperor with no clothes.

If you feel this crosses the line, then please delete it. But things are going to get more serious from now on, if we like it or not.
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Apparently a great many Americans really do not care a whole lot about the elections. The phrase "Did Joe Biden drop out" was trending on google during election day. Honestly with only two important candidates one would assume that people at least try to know who is running. Democracy can't prevail like this.
jlehtone wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 14:36
felter wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 13:54 Well no more defending Americans, it's official, they are as dumb as ****.
You mean: not smarter than the rest of us.
This indeed. If you were to ask random people on the street here in Germany who our Chancellor is, you'd be suprised how many have absolutely no clue what his name is (at least here in NRW).
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jlehtone wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 14:36
felter wrote: Wed, 6. Nov 24, 13:54 Well no more defending Americans, it's official, they are as dumb as ****.
You mean: not smarter than the rest of us.
Indeed. They are us. :oops:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0eq7VNCcYY

Jonathan Pie (if you're not familiar, he pretends to be a reporter on the scene who between takes rants about something topical... and he's put out the one about the Election; always worth watching).

And if you need a reminder of the previous time...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

and the same faults and how we treat each other when on the other side, are applicable still. Not learnt.

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